Help talk:Feey and Yow and Stuff

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So there has been a lot of drama about Feey and Yow Kingdom lately. As most of you may know, Feey1 was banned because of his behavior towards Swiss Ninja, and now we don't know what to do with Yow Kingdom and other related articles.
SN wants Yow Kingdom to be conquered and annexed to the USA. However there are a few users who are against it, including TS, who recently left a message on my talk page and asked me to pass this to the community:

Remember (and share what I am about to write with the others on the CPFW), I am ALWAYS here. I have an I-Phone RSS app that logs every single change ever made to this site in chronological order. I know EVERYTHING that goes on here, so I'm never far away.

I'll be finishing up contact details soon, so people can mail me at a business e-mail that tells my real E-mail that I received a message once an hour. (This means that if ten people send me ten messages from 1:00 PM to 1:59 PM, all ten will be alerted to me at the top of the next hour. If one man sends a mail at 10:03 AM, I won't get alerted until 11:00 AM.)


Oh, and tell Swiss Ninja that I side with Feey on Yow. He went too far, and while Yow shouldn't put itself in everything to boost its own ego, neither should it be crucified and razed to ashes.

I suggest instead a weakening of Yow by having its insurmountable debt turn into the RL Eurozone crash, making the nation poor, and then rebuilt in humitly and honor.

My opinion[edit]

TS is right, and Feey is partially right. He put a lot of work into the article, it shouldn't be just bombed or conquered by the USA. You know, things like this don't happen in our modern world: a country that's in debt usually asks for a loan and uses it to slowly rebuild the economy. And, as Feey said, all of the articles he created are related to Yow. if Yow is conquered or bombed, what will us do with the related articles? Rewrite them? That would take eons.

If Feey is un-banned (and I support that, as, according to Swiss Ninja, we need good, active users), his articles are going to be his property again. However, if he stays banned, the article will be Fair Game, and we should decide what to do with Yow Kingdom. Also, I think Feey was banned unfairly. It was a personal fight that could be easily solved with conversation, and before he was blocked for a second time, he didn't do anything wrong other than question his ban. Plus having Yow conquered by the USA a part of an agreement to get Feey unbanned? What is this? Now banned users can bargain for being unbanned? During the period when Feey was unbanned, he regained the OOC rights over the Yow Kingdom article, so nobody could say what went on it and what didn't except for Feey. And the right of freedom of speech is granted to Feey according to the Code of Conduct: Except swearing, insults towards religion, sexual references, libel, prejudice, or immorality, users are relatively free to discuss what they please. And I'm quoting another policy, the Articles of Articles say that Article Disputes should be held peacefully and in a calm manner. Administrators, Patrollers, and Bureaucrats have the right to oversee these debates and keep the peace to prevent Flame Wars, and what's going on is exactly the opposite. My suggestion: nobody should edit Feey's articles until this has been solved.

Swiss Ninja, please don't take this as backstabbing: you're my friend, and, after all, you're an admin, and I respect you. But you've been taking this too far, turning a personal dispute into an eternal ban. And sincerely, is that really worth it? Is it worth losing a great contributor such as Feey just because he's been copying your style or something that isn't even in the COC? Please turn around and forgive Feey for what he has done to you, because this isn't the right way to solve a conflict. --PenBlooeR 00:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I agree with this.

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01:02, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

I do not hate Feey

I hate Yow Kingdom

It fuels his ego. I decided unban him IN EXCHANGE for giving up Yow to the USA

ALSO, TS says he is against RAZING Yow, not annexing.

--Swiss Ninja Signature.png User Talk SN.png 01:10, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

That thing of un-banning in exchange of something doesn't exist. You did that because Feey clearly didn't break any policy, I read them all. If he had broken a policy, you wouldn't have un-banned him. And now he's unbanned and it should stay that way. If Feey is not banned, he holds the OOC rights over Yow Kingdom, and he won't share them with anyone else if he doesn't want to. That means people must stop touching Yow Kingdom and let Feey do whatever he wants with it, unless something he does is OOC. But yeah, he should stop putting Yow in everything to boost its own ego. I hope he can at least understand that. --PenBlooeR 01:21, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Everybody goes through this stage, of creating Mary Sue characters and then getting knocked down. It's that way with any sort of fiction community. Don't feel bad, but still. Be good.--Kwiksilver - Drop it like it's hot while the pimp's in the crib. 01:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, scrap this. Let feey keep his kingdom. I'm over this. I will still watch and guide him the right direction, though.

--Swiss Ninja Signature.png User Talk SN.png 01:45, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

ps: i havent made a character in a very long time! How could you say that?