Talk:Super Smash Mates for Snowtendo 3DS and Vii N

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Maybe we could change the pagename to Super Smash Mates 4 for simplicity reasons, and use it as an alternate name? The official could still remain Super Smash Mates for Snowtendo 3DS and Vii N, if you want. Also, as for the characters section maybe we could make it like the Smash Wiki, with a gallery of characters. We could put the attacks and such either in another section on this page, make a separate page, or have each character get their own page as was set up for SSMB (although I think that may be a bit excessive). CKSig.pngWannaTalk? 02:57, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe make a redirect (since the current title is too long and tiring to type). I guess the character pages could work. When I get on my computer I'll start off with the character table, though. ULSK12TalkContribs Return of the random person Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 13:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

There were something like 49 characters in SSMB, so not all of them have to appear here eh? If I remember correctly, not all past Super Smash Bros characters move forward with every game either. Also, here's my idea for the character section. Just take note of the format, not the actual characters. Also, the images would be the official game images, not just the page images like what I put. Although making the images may be difficult, I think it'd make the article better overall to have some character art :P CKSig.pngWannaTalk? 15:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Good idea. And as for official game images, we never got that done in SSMB anyway. Also, I was thinking if we should replace Metal Parts with something else ULSK12TalkContribs Return of the random person Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 17:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Instead of drawing up images, I could instead make 3D models once I start to learn how to make them. --not amigopen 06:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
That's actually not a bad idea, with the game being for the 3DS and all (which, by the way, nobody ever uses the 3D feature anyway) ULSK12TalkContribs Return of the random person Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 14:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


By the way, about the unlockable characters. Although I think Kwiksilver should keep his position as the easiest to unlock and Captain B to be the hardest, what do you guys think? ULSK12TalkContribs Return of the random person Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 14:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I think that all depends on the full character roster, since it's been 5 years and I assume there will (or should) be a ton of new interesting characters, to go alongside of the classics. So, imo I think it'd be best to wait until a much larger roster has been assembled, rather than figuring it out now at the beginning. CKSig.pngWannaTalk? 01:38, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Don't forget the miis --not amigopen 10:41, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
In Brawl, one of the songs is called "Yii Creator". I guess we can make the Yiis work? ULSK12TalkContribs Return of the random person Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 12:33, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Just to check, we can put in "3rd party characters" too right? For example, I was thinking of adding the fictional movie variants of The Defenders (i.e. Captain Antarctica in a different uniform and Iron Penguin rather than Iron Walrus). Other examples could be famous fictional movie or video game characters (like how Pac Man is in the RL version). CKSig.pngWannaTalk? 12:54, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

I guess? (This would sound better if I was actually saying it) ULSK12TalkContribs Return of the random person Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 13:03, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Icon Feedback[edit]

Please give me feedback on the new icons I made on the images talk page. Is the icon of YOUR character fine? Or do you want me to change it?

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the ninja o dark one is gr8 m8 I give it a 8/8 weapon of mass destruction speaking,ill blow up cities for free on tuesday (talk) 20:30, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Epic. Just epic. ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 20:44, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


Oh and btw... I'm wondering if having Richperson be able to teleport is a little too overpowered. (Hopefully not as OP as Meta Knight is in SSBB, though.) ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 01:25, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Nah, its fine. Even Canon Smash had a few characters teleport before too. --Click here or here!!! Oh, and this is Fooly8. Yay!!! :D 15:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Btw, I'm thinking to replace "Bots" for a "Multiverse Collision" icon, since I realized that "Bots" and "Tiny Defense" are the same thing.Is that ok? (PS The "Multiverse Collision" icon would be a Portal Box,I presume) --Click here or here!!! Oh, and this is Fooly8. Yay!!! :D 15:22, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Sure. But the Multiverse Collision icon would just be a wormhole thingy. CP isn't the core center of the Multiverse, you know. Oh btw, I was gonna make Questisbak a character again. ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 21:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Moar Surprize![edit]

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I wasted my whole day doing this. "Iron Fortress" and "End Time" were the bigger challenges. --Click here or here!!! Oh, and this is Fooly8. Yay!!! :D 02:49, 24 August 2014 (UTC) looks awesome,fooly weapon of mass destruction speaking,ill blow up cities for free on tuesday (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Great job! ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 21:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Icons 2?![edit]

I know Human will go on Mltiverse Collision series and PogoPunk will probably have he same icon as EarthBound (named SkyBound here), but do the others get grouped into other series (besides "Fanon"), or should I make them new icons? (PS Fanonbot is the only character that can get the Fanon icon.) --Click here or here!!! Oh, and this is Fooly8. Yay!!! :D 21:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Speeddasher goes with Tails, I think, Penghis Khan would fit best on the Antics series, and the rest I guess have their own categories. I'm not done moving all the important Brawl characters, so wait a bit before you make the icons. ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 01:51, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Trophies[edit]

Hey, look, another goody. Woo hoo!

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We've got PogoPunk, OxiPie, I Am Fail, Mwa Mwa Penguin, Weegee, Fooly & Fuzzle, Wezzeti, Keysaber, Weegee Mabel, , Human Denton, Tittle, Gary, Sea Cheese Shark and Mabel --Click here or here!!! Oh, and this is Fooly8. Yay!!! :D 23:53, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

I just want to say, you've really improved since you came to the wiki in 2012, Fooly. Great job! ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 02:27, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! A LOT! :3. (btw, are there any referential pictures of Questisbak in the winternet?)


Hi[edit]

Can Slender be featured in this game? I'll understand if you say no. --30px30pxSlender Talk to me 07:45, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

  • Read the very first template on the page. Yes! --Click here or here!!! Oh, and this is Fooly8. Yay!!! :D 11:44, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Mates' Dash Enemies[edit]

Hey guy! And gals! And anyone who's reading! Do you have any suggestions for Mates' Dash characters or do you know places where to find inspiration? With 4,796 places to choose from, it is a hard desicion. --Click here or here!!! (FYI, this is Fooly8) 23:43, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Some bosses: The Destroyer, Mechagopen, Raptor Bot, Mega Chopper, Search Bots, Destroyer Zero, Ultimate Protobot (final boss) ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 00:45, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

What's this?![edit]

  • A wild FOOLY'S SURPRIZE has appeared!
  • Go! WIKIFORMAT!
  • FOOLY'S SURPRIZE uses splash!
  • It doesn't do anything.
  • WIKIFORMAT uses [[File: .png]]!
  • FOOLY'S SURPRIZE's true nature is revealed!

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  • FOOLY'S SURPRIZE fainted!
  • WIKIFORMAT gained 100 XP.
  • What's this? WIKIFORMAT is evolving!
  • Don't press B.
  • Seriously. Don't press B.
  • OH, YOU PRESSED B! WIKIFORMAT didn't evolve to NEWWIKI.
  • WIKIFORMAT evolved into COMMENTS SECTION.


Two letters: GG. ULSK12TalkContribs I FOUND A SHINY ODDISH Sentinel Knight by MegaZeo.jpg 01:41, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

Final gift.[edit]

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This is my final gift. A full version of the artwork. Some characters wre left out due to lack of recources or they didn't fit into the picture.

This is a final gift because I don't know how to do animations. If I was at least great at flash (and if I knew how to upload stuff from flash) I would have even made a recreation of the first trailer (Villager Trailer), with Fooly & Fuzzle as Villager.

PROPOSAL: Should Custom Moves be in our version of Super Smash Mates?[edit]

Custom moves is one of the key elements of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U, as it keeps the game fresh. Should we do that too?

YES (1)[edit]

  • --Click here or here!!! (FYI, this is Fooly8) 21:13, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

NO (0)[edit]

COMMENTS[edit]

  • No, seems too over-complicated for a parody article (It's not like we're actually playing the game). CKSig.pngWannaTalk? 06:13, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

LOL[edit]

I lied. Here's something cool.

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Herbert & Klutzy[edit]

Just curious, wouldn't it make more sense to make Klutzy a common helper trophy, rather than a player character... with two characters? CKSig.pngWannaTalk? 06:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Snow being unlockable?[edit]

I was thinking...

What if Snow was unlockable? I think Snow should be unlocked by battling on PuffleVille 10 times. If you agree or not, I'm fine. I was making a suggestion. It seems interesting. That's okay if you disagree. --FEED A PUFFLE? Nevermind... (talk) 12:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Snow, why don't you stop being lazy and actually read articles before you pitch in an idea like this. All the unlockable slots are FULL.

--Mr Cow2

You know what? THAT WAS MEAN. SNOW'S GOING TO TRY RUNNING AWAY IF HE HEARS THAT! I don't want him to be that angry. --FEED A PUFFLE? Nevermind... (talk) 15:25, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Calm down! They're just fictional characters! --This is a user page. (And this is a talk page.) 15:34, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. I didn't mean to be mean. Also, thank you Fooly.

Something possibly good[edit]

Ooh, this is a GOOD one. What if Frostbyte joins, maybe one extra DLC character? It's fairly new, but I'm interested for the result. --Snowseven.png This is a Puffle. This is a talk page. And here is a notepad. Glob.png 17:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I'm already developing a moveset for Blumerdoofy and WaddyRed in an Ice Climber-style of fighter, as the only duos are a Duck Hunt spoof and a Rosalina spoof. But if you think of a good moveset that would work in context before I do, sure.

--Some fool (And this is a talk page.) 20:42, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

ehh maybe SSM5 --Snowseven.png This is a Puffle. This is a talk page. And here is a notepad. Glob.png 21:36, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

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I made the winning nomination.--Drunk science.gif Mcdonalds394 The famous one of Mcdonalds City would like to chat with you! 2015.png 22:13, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Any slots?[edit]

Is there really no way to be on here? :( --Wikipenguino (talkcontribs) Spooky Scary Skeletons! JOL.png 13:14, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Not anymore.

Don't worry, I'm still there to represent Wikia.

--Mr Cow2 (talk) 01:51, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Too bad you're just depressing like they are. Spooky Scary CK 06:09, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

k then --Wikipenguino (talkcontribs) Spooky Scary Skeletons! JOL.png 01:53, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

There should be Wiki. Star, is there any reason to keep any characters that have no article from the Tiny Defense or Four Unknown series? If not, could some be removed for new character slots, since those characters don't seem to have any reason to be there or on the wiki in general if they're not in any other articles? Spooky Scary CK 06:09, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm willing to take out a few from TD, but how many do you need? ULSK12TalkContribsBATCHIRIMINAAAAAA I WANT TO BE SPECIAL.jpg 07:12, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Would 2 work? Characters like Mart456t don't have their own article. If not, just the one for Wikipenguino45. --Wikipenguino (talkcontribs) Spooky Scary Skeletons! JOL.png 07:15, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I forgot. Mart and Lily also there to represent wikia. Also how am I depressing? --Mr Cow2 (talk) 19:34, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Very Important Announcement[edit]

Captain Planet for Smash Mates 5

--Mr Cow2 (talk) 19:35, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Revising the roster[edit]

This installment of Smash Mates has, in my opinion, the worst and most nonsensical roster of any Smash Mates game, and I think a lot of characters should be removed. Here's my thoughts on who should get cut and replaced:

  • Leonid, Sniper Bot, Plasma Bot, Heavy Smasher, Jetpacker, and Cycler: These aren't even original Fanon characters, they're from some real life game called Tiny Defense and as far as I know only got in the game because of ULSK's Multiverse Collision stuff. They don't deserve a spot, much less 6.
  • Carl Johnson, Bruce Tyson, Lily8763, Mart456t, Ned, Heavy, and WaddyRed and Blumerdoofy: I've never heard of any of these characters, and not a single one of them have an article on the wiki. Why are they even here?
  • Vii Fit Trainer, Yii Brawler, Yii Swordfighter, and Yii Gunner: These characters only exist to parody existing Nintendo characters for this game and should be removed.

Discussion on who to replace these with and opinions on the characters I've listed is welcome. --Chill57181 (Talk - Contributions - My Articles) 02:39, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

I can speak for two of these. Lily8763 and Mart456t were on the old wiki. I can't remember whether they came here and added themselves or not and I'm too lazy to check the history. More likely than not I added them and forgot, and you have my full permission to just scrub them from history and never acknowledge they were here again.
Oh, and the Heavy is from Penguin Fortress 2. I need to revise that article. --Mr Cow2 (talk) 04:49, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Neither of them have accounts registered here, although oddly some edits from late 2012-2013 are attributed to Mart despite not having an actual account. Not quite sure what happened there. --Chill57181 (Talk - Contributions - My Articles) 16:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Carl Johnson, Bruce Tyson, WaddyRed and Blumerdoofy all had articles on the wiki; The first two were Amigo's and the latter two were Fooly's, but they were all stubs and have since been deleted. CKSysop 05:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Another character that could be cut is Dark Knight, who I originally confused for Metal Knight while making this list. --Chill57181 (Talk - Contributions - My Articles) 16:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Here's some other lists for consideration in the new roster.

Characters from previous games who got cut:

  • Bonny1 Pie (only in Brawl)
  • DJ X (only in Brawl)
  • Eclipse (only in Brawl)
  • Elemento (only in Brawl)
  • Fake Tails (only in Brawl)
  • Illustrator Keith (only in Brawl)
  • Kerbpuff (only in Brawl)
  • Lightpenguin (only in Jitsu)
  • Maddieworld (only in Brawl)
  • Max 1537 (only in the original)
  • Metal Knight
  • Midas and Herb (only in Jitsu)
  • Pufflechu (only in Jitsu)
  • Prof. Sling (only in the original)
  • Sam Rudi (only in the original)
  • Spider880 (only in the original)
  • Wave Jones (only in the original)

Characters who were cut from this game but return in U.B.E.R.:

  • Austin8310
  • Ben Hun
  • Director Benny
  • Flystar55555
  • Gary
  • Luce
  • Mayor McFlapp
  • Mectrixctic
  • Penguinpuffdude
  • Rico/Skipper (combined into one character with the rest of the Madagascar Penguins in U.B.E.R.)
  • Shroomsky and Turtleheimer
  • Triskelle
  • Winston (currently a Helper)

A few exceptions from these lists:

  • Bucket works for PengStation now, and probably wouldn't reappear in a Snowtendo game.
  • Feey1 was cut after Jitsu and doesn't reappear until U.B.E.R., with an in-universe explanation for his return.
  • Flight Richperson appears as an alternate form of Richperson in Brawl, but his moveset doesn't accommodate that and I don't think he should take up two slots.
  • Thunder Von Storm was a character in Brawl, but has apparently never had an article.

--Chill57181 (Talk - Contributions - My Articles) 16:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Uh, Chill, Dark Knight is my creation. He isn't even related to Metal Knight, but rather Star Kirby. He was in Fanon Characters Special 2015! I believe. --Mr Cow2 (talk) 20:39, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I support all of the removals you suggested, and also making Dark Knight an alt skin of Star and either removing or replacing Nat von Maple with Nat. Maybe you should make a vote section, or at least put a notice on the page for people to participate/give their opinions. CKSysop 09:17, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Hello it's me bringing this old discussion back to life. There are now 7 spots open because ULSK didn't want Human Denton in continuity anymore, and I also took the liberty of removing the Tiny Defense characters from the roster due to the changes to the multiverse. Anyone's thoughts on this discussion so far and suggestions for filling up those slots would be greatly appreciated. Also, keep in mind that UBER still has 6 slots open, so we could also add some newcomers here and bring them back for UBER as well if anyone wants to. --Chill57181 GingerbreadManPin.PNG (TalkContributions) 17:36, 4 December 2019 (UTC)