User talk:Z K/Archive 1

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BOOYAH FOREVER!, -- Explorer 767 (Talk) 09:44, February 7, 2010

Freedom

I like you. Your big mouth. Your boldness. Your ambition.

I have similar ambitions to you. But not the boldness or the big mouth.

I'm just a ferat. You're a lion. You would stage a vandalism raid while I would just hide my views in the shadow.

I was part of the "Wiki Revolution", led by Dancing Penguin.

I want to create a democracy like you.

If you want to talk to me contact me on UNCPW. -- Firmato per Il Dirigente Conversazione verso Il Dirigente 20:26, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

I never made a "Wiki Revolution"... --DP

I like demrocycy,but id prefere a dicatorship over TS. Or anything where TS has the final say and everyone must obey him. -- This guy ROCKS talk......If you dare........ 21:01, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

lolwut --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 21:02, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Bad idea. Though TS is awesome and all that, he can make bad decisions, and he has a habit of under- or over-estimating situations. He needs help from other admins. Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (String theory is SO last chronon.) View this template 13:36, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

I hope you are all aware what a dictatorship is like. I know Hitler seems cool and all but say if this was a dictatorship and I was the main authoritah. I'd ban you all. Why? 'Cause I felt like it. No difference if TS was the main dictator as well, he could ban you for whatever he felt like and you can't say anything about it.

That is what a dictatorship is. Z K 13:56, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

Your Messages and Courage

ZK:

Thank you for standing up to me. Sometimes, I need a reality check, and you have given me one. I hope that I listen to that more. --† This is Serious Business! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{THE GAME.} † 19:17, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Article

Well, we currently have a ban on human-esque character imports, so I'm afraid I can't write your article at this time. HOWEVER, I was secretly working on an image with TSP (my character) giving your character a medal of honor, which I planned on sharing without fanfare. --† This is Serious Business! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{THE GAME.} † 02:18, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hi!

You just got the 12yz12ab award for no reason at all. Template:12yz12abaward --12yz12ab BAWWWWW to me because I dont care Do you REALLY want to see my edits? Or where I made them? 20:04, February 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hi.

Can you make a new picture of 12yz12ab? Its easy. Just draw G. 12yz12ab looks kind of like G.--12yz12ab BAWWWWW to me because I dont care Do you REALLY want to see my edits? Or where I made them? 23:04, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

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I want the picture in 3-d but i cant find any of that....--12yz12ab BAWWWWW to me because I dont care Do you REALLY want to see my edits? Or where I made them? 23:07, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

...

Just make it in any style then...google sketchup is not very good for making penguins....--12yz12ab BAWWWWW to me because I dont care Do you REALLY want to see my edits? Or where I made them? 23:10, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks

--12yz12ab BAWWWWW to me because I dont care Do you REALLY want to see my edits? Or where I made them? 23:13, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

It looks good.

But it dosent REALLY look like 12yz12ab. Maybe i will use it for an upcoming article....--12yz12ab BAWWWWW to me because I dont care Do you REALLY want to see my edits? Or where I made them? 16:37, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

re:Whoa

Well, it's no secret really, I just go to MS paint and start making curves, lines, and colors. Most of the pictures I uploaded here are photos from Club Penguin that I edited.

Thx, it's nice to know that my work is liked.

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 18:33, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think...

That you should make an article called Zonekill. If you gave the characters Zone and Kill the power to combine together it could make up your username...also its for extra power for the two....--12yz12ab BAWWWWW to me because I dont care Do you REALLY want to see my edits? Or where I made them? 03:54, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

• Why does that remind me of a TV show I watch. But I like that idea. --E-114 All those beautiful magical weapons, Gone! 03:59, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

• Actuallies, I was planning to do that originally but I didn't know how it would feel towards the other users. I'm concentrating more on making Zone / Kill less Mary-Sue than their powers. I'm already planning to make King of Sorrow amazingly overpowered but I might get away with it since fanon wise, its a rarity Zone becomes King of Sorrow. Z K 04:07, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

I Am Sorry

I would like to say too you that I am very sorry for my actions.I blamed you without thinking about the facts just because I angry.I am very sorry for blaming you for vandalising my wiki.Im just a head strong and very stuborn guy.I hope you will forgive me for my unjust actions --Lord Hun! ^{Fear Me Mortals!} 05:14, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Contests

They were long disbanded, and they were indeed a ton of fun. --† This is Serious Business! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{HEH HEH HEH HEH!! IT'S PROFESSOR LEEBSTRUM!} † 01:54, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Contests

Alas, the Contests are not my jurisdiction. I have no knowledge nor authority to reinstate or recommission them. --† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{HEH HEH HEH HEH!! IT'S PROFESSOR LEEBSTRUM!} † 20:46, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

Well they are pretty much dead so anyone can come and adopt them I guess. I started the Contests thing but then I kinda became inactive and they replaced the judge. --DP

Music Project

Right, well I've been making a lot of music articles, such as singles, albums, DJ's and expanded Cadence's music career too. And I made the {{Infobox album}}, {{Infobox single}}, {{Infobox song}} and {{Infobox artist}} for the music project. Basically, we'll need to create stuff based around music to expand our melody knowledge - now I have a particular interest in R&B - if you don't, that is fine (by the way, I don't like rock). Here is what we'll be doing:

1. Making musical items based around music.
2. Possibly for music artists (I can make some parodies, if you don't want to make parodies that is fine) and more studio album, singles & song articles.
3. Expand our categories related to music.
4. Make some musical instruments possibly - our own original ones.

So if you can do that with me that'll be great! If you got no interest in this, or can't participate in all of those, reply back with your answer.

-- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 20:38, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Bennyware

I made it with MS Paint.

I can barely use "<h1>" and "<title>" tags. I can write a simple, organized text block in HTML. Nothing more, nothing less. All I know about HTML came from a tenth grade course in computers. Reading JavaScript, to me, is like reading Japanese. CSS is even worse. MediaWiki-Syntex is my sole code specialty.

However, if that image amazes you, then I am honored. Thank you so much.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{HEH HEH HEH HEH!! IT'S PROFESSOR LEEBSTRUM!} † 00:51, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Music Project

Yeah, we can make other genres of music too like those. User-related is also fine. I agree with all there. You can start on one side, I'll start on the other - then we'll edit eachothers. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 16:25, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there is Crow - The Hard Times to look at. I am going to be improving Dance on Sunday and make some of Cadence's albums too. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 11:32, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

Great! We'll need single covers too, so when we'll need them, I'll ask you. I've made some myself. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 13:13, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

That's awesome too. I'll hear the remix soon - and nice on Zone Compositions. Make stuff like that - it's good. Also, your taking a style on long introductions - well done! That's what I do, but only when I know exactly and everything I am going to put in. If you are a big fan of music, you should listen to your local Chart Show, usually on the radio. What country are you in? If it's USA, then your source is Billboard.com. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 21:08, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

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Also, could you help me spread {{Infobox character2}} - you can check out examples on Gary and Ninjinian. I really hate the new {{Infobox character}} - even though it was me and TurtleShroom that wanted a new upgrade on the Infobox character. I just don't want to waste my time fixing it or modifying it, so I made a new one. Which one do you think is better? I won't be offended if you think the original is better. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 21:11, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like that very much, thanks. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 17:09, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Music and Articles

Well, I'm not qualified to review your Golden Sun remix, because I have never played or seen the game.

However, I have nothing other than praise for your articles. They are brilliant works of literature which deserve respect and usage. Like the RV Clan before you (your style is very similar), you are a genius with no where to go but up.

I believe that all of your articles are HQA 3, and if they are not, they should be promoted. My only suggestion would be to give a penguin or puffle a shot after you write about your core characters and scenarios. On the opinion side, I would also reccomend lengthening Kill's skirt a little bit and straightening her legs, but that's just me.

Also, I edited the King of Sorrow for OOC and inclusion of obscure articles. I hope that you didn't mind me having King of Sorrow manifest himself outside of Yoenah instead of destroying Club Penguin. There was a lot of OOC in his first manifestation, such as the PSA being corrupt to the point of slapping someone (the PSA has sensitivity training and background checks to prevent that) and on CP being decimated. Instead, I had Zone transform because he refused to see his best friend in jail. I had to remove the second manifestation for mega-OOC. Darktan was in error because he used Kill as a tool. That's normally okay, as Darktan is fond of "pawns" (like Shroomsky screwing up the Fourth Wall) doing work for him, but Darktan is a High Penguin and one who believes in "poetic justice". I mean, with the amount of win that PogoPunk gave him, Darktan could clap his flippers and blow the USA up. Instead, he chose war as a moe fitting means of revenge.

Darktan has too much class to kill someone just to make a weapon useful. He wouldn't threaten Kill or take advantage of Zone like that, regardless of how evil he is. Darktan is evil, very evil, but he still has class. Plus, Darktan, being the wielder of the Amulet of Shadow, knows the dangers of unleashing a sealed creature and what happens when one can't control such raw power. Maledict is locked away, too, though Darktan can fully control it. Darktan wouldn't make such a Noobish mistake as turning the King of Sorrow on him like that. Darktan has full experienece of ancient beings and locked-up entities. His grandfather, Ocapus, is banished into the Silmaril Void and is trapped in the Amulet. He can communicate with Darktan through it. The High Penguins put Ocapus to use by replacing his food with junk e-mail. He eats that.

Plus, Malcur was trapped too, as was Speeddasher. All of these would have been taken into account, and Darktan wouldn't have made such a mistake. That is why I removed the second manifestiation.

Well, as the Walruses once said, "T.L.;D.R.": In short, I showered your articles with praise and explained my OOC-correcting edits with the King of Sorrow. I also suggested that you try and make a penguin or puffle once you are done with your personal articles.

In other news, go check out IFAW, the Walrus based off of the Shoop-Da-Whoop meme, with a Doctor Octogonapus twist!

Have a great day,
--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{DOCTOR OCTOGONAPUS, BWAAAAH!!} † 23:48, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

RV?

I think they had a bit of CP and they lurved Blizzard games, especially Warcraft and Diablo. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 16:31, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE: RV Clan

Yes, actually, they did have a Diablo rendition. I'm certain of a CP version, but Runescape... I am not so sure.

If that is the case, then yes, you were a member of that elite group, which totally explains your writing and drawing stile.

:)

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{DOCTOR OCTOGONAPUS, BWAAAAH!!} † 21:12, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Fine.

Fine. I'm sorry. I thought I heard somewhere that you vandal. I guess maybe not. I guess we've all been judging you incorrectly. I'm super sorry. Would you like me to erase your name and add it to my friend list?

-Rocket Slug Ha ha ha! I'm painting!

Well, alrighty then.

I still will add you to my friends list, even though you were a vandal. I guess good people can be friends with users who used to live a life of wiki crime. I guess that's ok. And I understand bad days. They happen to the best of us. Once again, sorry for the harsh message.

Rocket Slug BAWWWWWWW to me!

RE: Un-CP (not mad)

Before I begin, I wish to clarify that I am not mad at you, and I also wish to clarify that my intention was not to vandalize the Un-CP. I may hate it, but I'm above destroying something that someone else likes.

It's hard for me, but I was trying to maintain the site's ridicule standards vwhen editing that article. You were depicting me, and not, say, Aunt Arctic, and I feel that, if you must insult me, you should do it without putting swear words and smut into Yertle's mouth and ideals. I replaced most of that with the only other insults I knew people used on me. Namely: that I am a religious zealot that burns or crucifies Un-CP cronies and everyone else at the stake, a Republicn with a shotgun, a Fuhrer, a nuisance, a villain, a power-mad being, a spaz, and someone that, if dissent occurs, the dissenter gets destroyed.

I was attempting to prove that not swearing and not being filthy can still be funny. I was in no way trying to destroy the site, I was in no way trying to take over the site, and I was in no way attempting to be a vandal. I have intentionally vandalized one time in my career, and that was putting a hidden comment criticizing the CPW's new communist policies.

I had no intention to attack your site. I was not seeking control. I was not angry at it, and I was not trying to blank the site because I hated its content.

I was simply trying to prove that humor can be done without being dirty and without brutally slandering people and saying that I would want to lick Explorer's face and have sex with him. That is extremely offensive, much like that picture your site once had of my character making out wih Explorer's character.

On the Un-CP, you can call me a religious zealot all you want. On the Un-CP, you can have me ramsack villages, burn people at the stake, crucify people on an upside-down cross, shoot them, boss them around, and issue death edicts and idiotic decrees in which I am hiding in my igloo with a shotgun. I take no offense to that. So, go ahead, have my character fill a Walrus or Aunt Arctic with lead. Have me crucify someone.

However, I will harshly draw the line at anything depicting me or any of my work as swearing characters, as one who has sex, as a homosexual, or as one who encourages sex and/or smut, as well as one who marries, or is in love with Explorer. I draw the exact same lines with Explorer and his work, as he doesn't have the courage to go over there, as I do.

There's poking fun at my religion, and there's blatent bashing of my core beliefs and character. Two paragraphs up, that's all fine and dandy. Below that, it's true slander.

I also hate that the Un-CP reserves the explicit (literally) right to mock the CPFW and quote it page by page, insulting the site and its content and making fun of that content. Why can't we do the same here? If I try to write about the Inquisition rounding up Un-CP cronies in black vans and torturing them until the recant that site, Metric will revert my edit or make us balance it with them having unmonitored entrances. Yet, the Un-CP can tear the CPFW and everything in it to shreds, leaving it to the vultures, and we have to deal with that. If I make fun of the Un-CP on this site, they can't take and make me change it to be balenced. It's hypocracy/

Also, having me saying to "kill all Walruses" is funny. Asserting that it true, that I actually said it, is not. That was something I never remember saying, and if I did, it was a metaphor.

I'm not requesting that you wipe your site of swearing. I request that you wipe the CPFW article clean and the slander on Explorer and me. Everything else is fine. Please, though, leave the CPFW and Explorer alone. Depict me as a religious, republican, creature-shooting, totalitarian, zealout nutjob that massacres random bystanders, but please, don't make my characters gay or sexual.

I just want a slight bit of respect for us over at the Un-CP. After all, we're forced to have some for our article on your site.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Does the shark have an alibi?} † 16:43, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: I apologize for the wrongs I commited to your site. I request your forgiveness and I'll try and not do it again. I went over there in search of pictures for a video, not for a Crusade. I didn't intend to cause choas.

Happyface

ZK, this is not the first time that HF has been accused of being as evil as Fluffy.

In fact, I gave him a long warning earlier, for nearly identical reasons that destroyed Swiss Ninja's will to edit. He totally ignored it.

You claim to have pages upon pages of incriminating, smoking-gun evidence of HF being evil, all behind my back. He always acts good when I am present, but the sheer amount of negativity he has recieved creates a menacing backstory. If what you're saying is true- and knowing you, it is -he is kissing up to me in order to stay online, only to attack innocents when I have turned away.

I gave him a second warning, now with more Bible, that you may enjoy reading.

I have told him that, if he can't clean up his act or give me proper justification of his behavior by sunset, I'll ask you to provide your evidence. Please remember to censor all swear words and innuendos/unclean things with black squares over the word.

HF has gotten away scotch-free for a long time. You and many others seem to see great evil in him. He's just kissing my backside, so they say, to stay online. HF knows that if I get mad at him, he's toast. Yet, he goes behind my back and commits atrocities towards innocent users. He fears me, and I bet he fears you even more. In fact, I fear you, because you tell it like it is without regard to who it is.

I'll message you again when I am ready for the evidence. Until then, bask in the sweet knowledge that you may get to kick Happyface414's butt.

If the punishment goes through, I'll also seize his articles as compensation for the alleged disgusting crimes he commited. He would be demoted to a rollback or normal user. If it's bad enough, he'd also be infinitely blocked.

Gather your evidence, ZK, for when the sun goes down, HF's time may just come.

HF should be scared.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Does the shark have an alibi?} † 20:06, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

It is TIME - ZK, please begin producing the HF Evidence

ZK, Happyface414 has failed to produce any evidence to the claims of the People.

Thus, it is my duty as BOSS to investigate his Impeachment charges.

ZK, you know what to do. Please produce all of the evidence you can gather. Please, show me every log, every portrait, every item you know of. I want witnesses, testimonies, user agreements, and most importantly, what he does behind my back on other sites. I want to see the truth, and not just him coming on and saying he will quit, and me asking him not to.

Just how many pictures of evidence do you have against HF, again?

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Does the shark have an alibi?} † 02:44, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Idea: asking staff to make checkuser on the IPs of Happyface and Fluffy. Just saying. Dancing Penguin 21:36, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yo

came here for a visit, and I noticed you're an ex-RV member.

what rank/faction were you involved in? never really saw much of you..

Bugzy^Talk

05:53, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Zy-El was the name of the guildmaster, I don't know the others you're talking about.

we disbanded last year because he couldn't afford the money to uphold the clan site, plus he was sent off to recruit training in the army.

so what's your relations with RV?

Bugzy^Talk

06:03, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Final Bowser

You chose one of my favorite video game songs of all time, and i feel fit to give i a review.

Like all of your music, you hav done a good job, and you should be very proud of yourself.

However, I would suggest that you make the starting part, where the music begins all dramatic-like, more dramatic. That's the part that, when done on the organ, sends the most chills down your spine. You put way to many instruments at the start, where it should be a gradual, dramatic buildup to the main tune. The main song, after the startup and to the end, was executed fantastically.

You did a great job, as always.

:)

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Those turtles that were climbing turtles couldn't get over the turtle fence.} † 01:28, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Linx

Sure! I'll take a picture of Dan as Admiral (See CNIC)

Thanks!

--Anniem۝۝se 12:00, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Request

Okay, I know you're extremely busy and that your order list is backing up. I am perfectly fine if you are not able to do this -- no pressure.

But if possible, could you at least make an image for the AMOEBA? I'll be sure to add a description upon hitting the save button.

Thanks! Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 21:23, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

BTW, you may want to use this and/or this as your reference image(s). Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 21:39, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Just the AMOEBA. The description in the article should be completed pretty soon, probably by the weekend. I just want a pic of it flying in the sky, in its normal, un-camouflaged state.

(Reference pic means a picture of something to base the image off of. The AMOEBA takes elements from Kabula, you see, particularly the theme song.)

Take your time, I'm in no hurry. =) Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 10:55, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Just a note -- you don't have to draw all of the AMOEBA's weaponry hanging out, ready to fire. I just want the blimp. Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 10:56, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

You know, if you keep that behavior up you'll probably achieve gentleman status within a few weeks. =) Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 18:09, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Tim

Can you draw Tim and Vam? In one picture.

If yes.

Tim is just like Zim, the parady he is. just get a picture of Zim and make ti look like a penguin.

Vam is jsut like Gir, no diffrences.

--Corai: The Red Penguin with real hair! ^{(I dare you to listen to Polka, I DARE!} 19:21, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay.

And here, have 20 coins *gives ham* Wait how did Ham get in my pocket? --Corai: The Red Penguin with real hair! ^{(I dare you to listen to Polka, I DARE!} 19:25, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

About your RV Status (plus Happy Birthday)

If that was you behind the scenes, then you did an excellent job in helping us. I had a gut feeling that Zy was getting fed info because he sure knew a lot about enemy clans for some strange reason.

Also, happy birthday! Sweet sixteen is it?

A user has given you a birthday cake! Cakes promote WikiLove, especially on birthdays and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a birthday cake on their birthday, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Now please get that pie out of sight before Fred sees it and goes crazy. Bon appetit, and happy birthday!

Bugzy^Talk

22:35, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

bu bu bu bu bu......

BUGZY?!??!??!?!?

PS: HAPPYU BIRTHDAY!

A user has given you a birthday cake! Cakes promote WikiLove, especially on birthdays and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a birthday cake on their birthday, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Now please get that pie out of sight before Fred sees it and goes crazy. Bon appetit, and happy birthday!

--Corai: The Red Penguin with real hair! ^{(I dare you to listen to Polka, I DARE!} 22:37, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Someone knows how to sneak...

A user has given you a birthday cake! Cakes promote WikiLove, especially on birthdays and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a birthday cake on their birthday, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Now please get that pie out of sight before Fred sees it and goes crazy. Bon appetit, and happy birthday!

May you have many more! Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 22:44, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Some more noms for your enjoyment

A user has given you a birthday cake! Cakes promote WikiLove, especially on birthdays and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a birthday cake on their birthday, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Now please get that pie out of sight before Fred sees it and goes crazy. Bon appetit, and happy birthday!

--E-114 Welcome to the dragons den 22:53, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Kill's Death

Okay I think I have a way of making it more CoC acceptable and dramatic.

When Nightmare wounds Kill, he transforms into super Nightmare and fights the King of Sorrow. When he loses (courtesy of Tails), he flees, and by that time it's too late to save Kill. Zone knows that she'll suffer an agonizing death and there's no way to prevent it, so he pulls himself to put her out of her misery and shoots her with a snowbullet.

Deletion apocalypse FTW

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 22:58, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Nightmare and Sorrow are equal, Antibodies anyone? --Corai: The Red Penguin with real hair! ^{(I dare you to listen to Polka, I DARE!} 00:57, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

I guess I can fly with that Mectrixctic, dunno if that would be allowed though. Z K 04:12, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

For Zone

Note: Yes, from now on I will specify to which user I wish to speak to.

Wondering if you could give a review on my very first images drawn in Flash. Recently my dad bought pretty much all of the Adobe CS3 programs and I've been trying out Flash ever since. (I'm taking Flash II right now in school.) Since I know you usually draw images using Flash, just wondered what your opinions were on this and this. Thanks! Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 02:24, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Sysop *FOR Z

Hey Z!

You can tell Kill this too, but I know you a bit better, In 100 more edits (You have 300 already, keep it up!) You can become a sysop. I know that will be coming up REALLY soon and I know you will have atleast 95% of the wiki's votes for.

Just wanted to brighten your day!

--Anniem۝۝se 14:04, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Tablet

for Zone

Sure, I can wait. (Especially if it's for a better-quality image.) I'll have SSBB to keep me busy.... heheh. >=D Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (SUCK UP DIS TORCH!) View this template 21:57, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ned Flanders: GO FORTH AND PLASTER HIS FACE!!

ZK, I hope I'm not too late!

I looked up Ned Flanders. You have my full approval! Ned Flanders seems to be what the Simpsons are not: clean, moralistic, non-swearing, successful, kind, sober, and he has an epic mustache to boot!

I guess what they say is true: everyone has a Simpsons counterpart. Ned? He's the closest to me. I especially like how the article said he attacked Lovejoy for being a hypocrite and being Non-Christian. That guy- from what I've read -is a jerk. Hurry up and put his face on TSP! You have my permission! Nay, my endorsement!

I was going to write a speech, but it's far too close to bedtime to do that.

"Diddly do" and other stuttering/nonsense dribble! :)

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{SQUIDWARD I USE YOUR CLARINET TO UNCLOG MY TOILET.} † 02:04, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: Thank you for choosing a character that is appropriate for the database! I commend you for your respect! That will truly pay off down the road, as you have truly proven your trustworthiness and respect for us and the COC!
P.S.S.: Ned Flanders has a mustache made of raw win. I see why he has a fan club.

---

Hurry! Time is running out!! I must see Ned Flanders by midnight tomorrow! --† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{SQUIDWARD I USE YOUR CLARINET TO UNCLOG MY TOILET.} † 02:05, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Flander's Fun

Flander's has took over the fanon - it was your idea, great idea -- it's going a bit far now. Everybody's been sucked into it, but not me. Hun's gone crazy on the idea and is thinking about his "LOLCats" now. Though this is for one day, it's gone overboard. Everybody is going "What's my Flander name? Blah blah ba-blah!" - I told Hun that if LOLCats strikes here, then I will take leave - he doesn't care, does he? This is what he writes. I'm doing nothing about it, I am just notifying you that the joke has gone too far - and it was a good idea, it's just that everybody went too far.

P.S. I have MSN, by the way.

P.S.S. Could you see {{Navbox}} - it doesn't work and I need it fixed.

-- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 21:23, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Genius

I loved the Ned Flanders takeover today,it made me laugh after about 5 secs of staring blankly,hey I heard that TS will make you a BOSS ;) you rock so hard man!!!!! --User:Mech Rider Some robots did not eat the waffles 03:09, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE: RE: Flanders

I understand that you like the praise of your brilliant idea, but it is annoying me -- that is all. And I really do not know, I copy-pasted the Wikipedia code of the Navbox and it comes out as {{DJ Crow}}. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 10:17, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Good to know, now. I'll add you soon, if you even wanted me to add you :) : we can talk about stuff. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 10:49, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Okay :D - and just so you know, the CPW have copied the same code, I think, from Wikipedia and their Navbox works, but I do not know why ours doesn't. -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 11:06, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Imperial Emporer.

ZK, I grant you permission to use, write, and roleplay as Imperial Emporer and all his forces. However, I'd like to point out that I hold a stake in Zenexthia, as it was once the land of Turtly. Turtly was run by King Tortoise and President Crabby until IE came, saw, and conquered.

If you wish to ask anything about Zenthexia/Turtly, please do so with haste. Otherwise, you have total and unrestricted access to IE. I can't wait to see what you do with him!

I apologize for the extreme delay, but hey, I'M AT DISNEY WORLD!

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Mary Poppins was never that pretty,} † 22:10, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: My signature is related to an experience I had at the park. It was either that or HYPER SPLUNKING.

Music

It really depends on your taste and your criteria for good music. I prefer fast, exciting, and/or epic music. The Kirby series is all three.

Your suggested remix is still pretty good. It's tense, and the percussion is great. I think it justifies its title of "Epic".

If you want to see some music from the Kirby series that I think is pretty epic, you can check out this remix of Galacta Knight's Theme and this awesome remix of Miracle Matter's Theme. Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (Dededoo is here to CLEAN YOUR CLOCK.) View this template 19:05, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

If you'd like to see battles against both bosses, here's a vid of the battle against Miracle Matter, and here's the battle against Galacta Knight. Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (Dededoo is here to CLEAN YOUR CLOCK.) View this template 19:12, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hi.

How do you remember all that wiki code? Its so confusing....--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 20:52, April 6, 2010 (UTC) P.S. I want Zone to reply.

And,how did you learn those cool fancy section things? (Not headings those...you know the things that organise the main page)--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 22:12, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Yo

I'm not very good at drawing humans, but I might just decide to draw your requests one day. --Speeddasher

To be honest that's gonna be kinda hard to give you advice seeing as you're allready such a great artist. I'd say just keep doing what you're doing. Draw what you're comfortable drawing. You've got a gift and that's pretty much all the advice I can give you. I like you're art style and you need to keep it up. I'm not telling you to make more pictures right now because I know how sometimes people don't have time to draw (believe me, I learned the hard way by taking requests from a lot of people). Also congratulations on getting the tablet. --Speeddasher

Request

Dear, Z K,

I ask of you, when you have time, if you can please make a picture for Emperor Pengvintine (the future Swiss Ninja).

Description:

He is basically looks like Swiss Ninja (with his belt and mask) with

• a white beard and puffy eyebrows (like Sensei)

• Lots of facial wrinkles

• He wears a black cloak over his head.

• he has a cane

• His facial expression is very sour looking, and his eyes are bold and angry looking.

Please do it as soon as you can.

--Swiss Ninja - I place the Royal Seal on this page - 17:44, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

For Zone

ROFL. I was looking up Happy Mask Guy and look what I found:

The Happy Mask Salesman. He wants Majora’s Mask. Everyone who’s evil wants Majora’s Mask…

.He has a Mario mask on his backpack. Fun little easter egg, right? How does Link get his masks? People die, he plays the song of healing and then their faces become masks (that’s pretty creepy in itself), so effectively, the Happy Mask Salesman has killed Mario.

Lol. --Austin8310 00:31, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Hey

Yes, it will certainly help.

But if there is no music for the songs, it can only be used for theme songs or stuff like that.

-- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 10:44, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

What is...

...Your user icon from? (Mine is just a drawing that i made from MS paint)--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 17:56, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

What is...

...Your user icon from? (Mine is just a drawing that i made from MS paint)--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 17:59, April 10, 2010 (UTC) P.S. I also need help on how to fix my userpage thing that I COPIED FROM THE MAIN PAGE....

?!?

What's the dealio with the weird pictures? LOL. --Austin8310 18:06, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Hello

Disney World was wonderful, thank you for asking. Fortunately, I have been pulled up to speed with this site's events. Thank you for the assistance.

:)

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Mary Poppins was never that pretty,} † 17:53, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Template:Nightmare's Army

Hey, I herd that you're good at making templates, and don't like ripoffs, so can you create the template for Nightmare's Army?

I think Nightmare Epic would benefit from it. If you are unable to, maybe you could inform some people about wikitext code (correct me if I'm wrong and you're not that good)

k,

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 18:31, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

AWESOME

Yeah, that template looks so much cooler. Anyways, the color of the font should be different, because the background is also blue. I think some kind of dark magenta might do the trick.

Also, we'll need a template for Nightmare's actual army (Some X-creatures are alligned with Darktan). Can you suggest what some ranks might be?

And we'll have a section for "Nightmare Epic" where DTA and NMA were merged. I think some X-creatures in the story could avoid the brainwashing and be on the side of good/neutral.

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 17:57, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hi.

Do you play CP?--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 20:28, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Nightmare Epic stuff

Okay I made a summary of what is likely to be the story by taking your story from the Forum, but made changes to it, for conintinty. The biggest being...

1. The reverse emothings portion is thrown out.
2. Darktan is against the hypnosis, but is Hypnotized by Z K immediatly afterwards.
3. Some DTA members escape from being hypnotized.
4. (scroll to see spoiler) Nightmare succedes in taking over the King of Sorrow, at the climax of the DA giving him a near infinite deletion powers. He loses (duh) but not without a big, long, and hard fight.

I'm almost finished writing it and will post it on blogs

Just as a "head's up"

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 17:52, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, yeah

Somewhere in the middle I think I'll put that. In the story Zone will be on the Good Guy's side for a while (faking it) and won't tell them that Nightmare is getting the Gems, so they won't know.

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 18:04, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

RE: 1337 PKMN DNS Hacking

Thank you, ZK! The Trade worked perfectly! I recieved a Celebi. A word of advice, though, is that you should give them names. I'd reccomend "BROS" and "QUALITY" for all of them, based on gender. That way, folks would be able to remember you when they play their game.

I have one question, though. If I wish to use the Global Trade Console outside of your 1337 gifts, can I do it without having to change the Primary DNS Server?

Anyway, thank you for the Celebi. I appreciate your gift!

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Do it. Do it NAOUGHW!!!!} † 00:03, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

RE: King of Sorrow's Theme

Well done! It sounds quite a lot like a genre of music that was popular when I was very little, called "Rave". Though, I may be confusing it with "Techno", because "Rave" involved glowsticks, odd dress, and strangely enough, pacifiers. Most of my knowledge of "Rave" comes from the old television series, "Samurai Jack", which was produced at the peak of "Rave's" popularity.

Regardless, you did very well, and I enjoyed the song throughly.

Have a glorious day.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Do it. Do it NAOUGHW!!!!} † 15:39, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: Happy Al Gore day!
P.S.S.: Have you seen Periwinkle Town yet? If not, I hope you do view it soon. It's a Pokemon parody about Lavendar Town.

Nightmare Epic

Well, I took your story, modified it, split it into three parts and putting them into blogs. You can see the first part of this story below.

User blog:Mectrixctic/Nightmare Epic- Begining

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 21:18, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

THX

I'm glad that you like it. I also made part two and part three.

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 18:52, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Thou Shall Not Drink Too Much Wine

ZK, don't post when inebriated, just don't. Drunken posting is not funny, it's annoying. ...well, okay, it's sort of funny to think that you were loaded with that poison and came on here...

Okay, now, I'll be all preachy. ... Now, I'm done with that.

ZK, just to put it shortly, DON'T DRINK AND WRITE. Seriously, DON'T.

It is NOT a sin to drink... -but getting drunk IS a sin.

'DON'T DRINK TOO MUCH ALCOHOL! It's fine to drink a beer or two, but becoming drunk is not fine! Don't get drunk, don't get drunk, don't get drunk!!!!!!

Please, learn to limit your consumption of alcohol! THIS IS A CHILDREN'S WEBSITE!

I hope ZK II QUALITY chews you up for this!

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{If turtles are becoming doctors, we need a defense!} † 01:37, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: It is kind of funny to imagine someone becoming drunk and going about posting... don't let it happen again.

RE: Bill and Inebriation

Well, you didn't do anything but spam... to my knowledge. It was gone by the time I was around to see the aftermath. If you MUST sin by getting drunk, don't post when laden with alcohol. Wait until you sober up to post again.

Remember, it's okay to drink alcohol if you can do so without getting drunk.

As for me, I'm a backwoods Baptist: Lips that touch liquor won't touch mine... ya'll.

<:)

As for the bill, I'm punishing both of us and preventing this from happening again.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{If turtles are becoming doctors, we need a defense!} † 01:40, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: I hope you get a kick out of that picture.

New User Page

Is that an attempt to give the viewers a seizure of some sort?

BTW, the official version spells it "Honalee". Yours Truly, Explorer 767   http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (DDD FTW!) View this template 00:21, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Continuing on from Explorer's complaint, that page hurt my eyes. Gah, feel like an overstuffed tomato.--Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS-No second chances. I'm that sort of a man. 12:02, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

It reminds me of that song "Albi the Racist Dragon" by Flight of the Concordes --ZE SHEEP! (That sheep is staring at me) 20:42, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

I think you're all forgetting what time it is, because RIGHT ABOUT NOW ITS TIME TO ROCK WITH THE BIGGITY BUCK BUMBLE.   http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1254/lockkey.png  ZoneKill  T C E   09:34, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

ZK, I apologize by such a long delay in messaging you. I had the file all typed up to be sent to you, but I had to leave before I could send it.

So, here it is:

You are correct in saying that I boycotted Pokemon. However, it must be specifically stated that I boycotted Pokemon Diamond and Pearl. Also, it wasn't because Arceus existed. It was because there were Bible/Scripture parodies on the third floor of that dock town in the game that even began with "in the beginning, there was nothing".

I am perfectly fine having Pokemon invested with powers to create their world. Most legendaries had some form of "holy power" to build the PokePlanet and its universe. Zapdos operated the storms, Mew oversaw Pokemon, Moltress did volcanoes, Articuno ran the snowstorms, Kyroge dug the oceans, Groudon made land, and Regigigias initiated continental drift. Palkia stabilized dimensions, Diagla kept time, Darkrai provided subconcious thought (but mostly nightmares), the crescent-head was involved with phases of the moon, Jirachi granted wishes, Lugia activated ocean currents, and Ho-oh kept the legendaries immortal and revived them if they fainted or died.

However, Arceus was introduced as the PokeGod. He created the heavens and the PokePlanet, so to speak. It slowly shifted the Pokemon origin stories from polytheistic cooperation to monotheistic command with major and minor creatures.

Prior to Arceus, every legendary Pokemon was an equal in a polytheistic system. Each legendary did their part to make the universe habitable. Arceus was swept in, and he retroactively wiped everyone- from all generations -into a lesser role. The origins of life in Pokemon were always a unique "this Pokemon helped this one make that" type thing. There was no religious parodies or other references to any faith.

With Arceus, a supreme Creator was introduced, and from there, it started to become more like Judaism or Christianity, in that there was one deity that existed before everything, and that the deity created everything else, including his helpers. God's angels were made by God, for example. So, think of it as Arceus being the god in this metaphor, and every other Legendary Pokemon as being his helpers/the angels.

---

As for Pokemon itself, I have actually been a lifetime fan. I've played every Pokemon reigon from Pokemon Yellow all the way to Gold DS, not missing one since I was six.

I didn't boycott the series because Arceus existed. I've taken enough Greek/Roman mythology in my day not to mind a false god or ten. It was because there were Bible/Scripture parodies on the third floor of that dock town in the game that even began with "in the beginning, there was nothing".

Such a shameless ripoff of a sacred text- one which I base my whole life off of as the tenant of my religion and beliefs -is immensively offensive to me. I had to wait until Pokemon dropped Arceus back into the "collectible" method instead of having the game- in part -revolve around him.

In the new editions of Pokemon, I hope that they will not write more religion. I'd like to capture Pokemon and save the world from Team Whatever, not read some Bible knockoff.

Hopefully, that answers you Pokemon queries.

---

As for File:ArmedZone.png, what can I say? You did very well and gave him a good weapon and a serious look on his face. All in all, you have once again shown your brilliance with another masterpiece. Although, his suit and bowtie look dramatically different from your original sketches, like those on your remixes. Sill, my advice should not be taken to seriously. I am not skilled enough to question, much less criticize, your work.

However, just for the purpose of the COC, Zone's swords can only send a rival to intensive care/the emergency room, non-descriptively. Like a Candy Sword or a Knicicle, they can slash a creature's clothes off and send him for a one-way trip to the hospital, but they can't kill or stab. Even the most skilled sowrdsmen in the CPFW world can only severely harm someone; no man or creature can kill by a blade.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Have your cathedrals got the buttress?} † 15:45, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

WikiCode

Hey, Zone. I was wondering how you know so much WikiCode. Can you teach me a little? KingH10 ;^) DOCTA HOO PWNS! ^{GOTTA GET USED TO THIS NEW KEYBOARD!} 09:23, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Photon working for Imperial Emperor

Okay, I know you adopted the article, so this idea shouldn't be to hard to pull off. Instead of creating a new villain (Xenamorph, Xenomorph, IDK which) you can make him work for an already existing one you already made. Xena(o)morph could just be a minion of IE, if you were going to make that into an article, or you can make them the same. Oragnization Warped could be the Imperial Knights

Just giving a suggestion. IE needs more stuff to it.

Citcxirtcem BAAAAAWW to me! ^{see my 5,676 edits!} 21:17, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Organization Warped

I actually have just the thing for you.

• Is Organization Warped a group, army, or collection of creatures with a common goal? If so, then template:Infobox_group is your template.

• Is Organization Warped, Inc. a business, legal or illegal, good or evil, in it for profit, and/or do they offer goods and services, or products, etc.? If so, that would neccessitate template:Infobox_company.

Hopefully, that helps. Good luck!

:D

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{Have your cathedrals got the buttress?} † 15:59, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Permission to use one of your Characters?

Hey Zone, can I use Zone and Kill in one of my new stories? Heres the first chapter in a nutshell:

I would like to use Wings in one of my stories I just came up with.... a parody of Sonic X Season 3.

My idea was that a year before the Nightmare Epic, Nightmare needed to gather strength from other universes. Because he wanted to take over Antartica, it would require mass energy, and realizes that each universe runs off of a specific energy; Light Crystals, with endless Hyper N.R.G., and Shadow Rubies, with endless Negative N.R.G. . But that was his plan B. His plan A was just to attack Tails head on and steal the Destruction Gems, but Tails, launches them into his PDA's randomizer and blasts them all over the universe(s). Nightmare, angry, hits him in the head with a frying pan and gives him to Aye-Que. Aye-Que, realizes that he would have to find the emeralds again and puts a tracker on him, and leaves him at his house.

Meanwhile, Fists is guarding the Master Gem when Homer (Instead of Chris) falls out of it. Homer, who bit a donut with Destruction Gem energy on it, was teleported to the CPFW universe.

E-114 at the time was arguing with Storm on the Pengolian Thieves Airship about something ridiculous when Fists jumps on board and tells them to throw it into Universe change mode, but says he needs Tails' PDA to jumpstart it. Storm asks why, and Homer walks on, eating a donut.

Tails and Wings are talking about how to get the emeralds while Nightmare, Lizlord, IcE, and Zone and Kill, look for them using a stolen PDA to power a spaceship. Fists jumps in and demands Tails to give him his PDA, so that he can send Homer back. Tails then gets a bright idea to take the Pengolian Thieves airship and search for the emeralds, then send Homer back.

Celeste and Kalie then go to the where Fists tells them to go; get the Master Gem; it'll be needed to power Tails new "6000 Cannon". After everyone gets on board, E drives it to hyper and takes off, but Nightmare realizes he can seize his daughter once more....

Don't worry, Zone and Kill will become a lot more important later, they'll be main antagonists in like chapter 5 and onward.

--E-114 Message center 21:01, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

WHAT?!

You are amazing at drawing. What do you use? GIMP? Photoshop? Microsoft Paint? (lol just kidding) Please respond on my talk page and also tell me how you do those awesome shading effects.--Hey look! The telephone pole fell down! 19:59, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Picture 2

ok....thanks for that wonderful picture, so i ask if you could make another one (when you are ready/feel like it). This time, it is much simpler. I want you to make Piper J. Cub wearing those Aviator Hat and Goggles...like those used in the Old days.

uh, yeah. that's it.

thanks, --Swiss Ninja - I place the Royal Seal on this page - 23:57, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Dan's Pic

Now that you are doing requests, are you working on his CNIC Pic? (Yes this is Anniemoose98)

--Dan Beronews (Talk/Edits/Blog) 13:16, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Help needed.

I am using gimp and inkscape for my drawings, but I was wondering how you do all those nice shading effects in your drawings. Please respond on my talk page.--Error 404: Signature not found 14:37, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me?

I would like to add my character to your Battlecards page. Can you help me make one? --WikiBlueDude 02:05, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE: RE: Battlecards

Sorry about that. Our Mac's keyboard got Gatorade all over it, and the spacebar won't work. Anyway, here is the link: Brown51brown. And I want him to be good. There you go. --WikiBlueDude 14:43, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re:I challenge you to a duel!

I accept your challenge. When does it begin? --Speeddasher

Hey Zone! I'm back!

Hey Zone! I'm back! BTW, it's Will k. Hey, I was wondering if you could do a better picture of this. It's really poorly drawn and I was hoping you could do a better one. Plz get back to me with your response, Happy Too.

--Jacob W. Too Talk to ^me! 09:14, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Contact me here when you do.

A Flash Animation For You And A Reward

You said you got your Adobe Illustrate or whatever...by pirating right?

...well this is for you.

And a reward for your successful trolling in the past... [1]

Flash Animation FTW.

--E-114 Message center 22:50, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

Rainbow Resort Remixes

Since you seem to enjoy good video game music (and/or remixes), I thought you might like this.

Concert of the Starry Sky - Dream of an Icy Sea, Track 11

Rainbow Resort Remix by iR2-X

They're both remixes of the level "Rainbow Resort" from Kirby's Adventure and Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland. Pretty relaxing in my opinion. I also think they beat Ballad of the Wind Fish any day, lol.

Yours Truly, Explorer 767   http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407022512/clubpenguinfanon/images/6/65/Xexexecolor_small.png   (Caffeinated tachyons?! What has this world come to?) View this template 00:27, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Award

Congrats!

	Awardin' Time
	Z K/Archive 1 is held in high esteem by Kwiksilver!

--Sir Kwiksilver of TARDIS-Haud secundus chances , EGO sum ut typus of vir.. 08:04, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Request.

Please go here. I really want some pics, so it can increase my chance of being a sysop. Any enquires, go to my talk. KingH10 ;^) Big Time Rush rules! ^{See my edits!} 08:12, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

for now

Use User:Z K/monaco.css - this makes the skin only appear to you until it's ready. Be sure to force our wikia skin to sapphire to ensure it won't create conflicts and dependencies on the old one. I like the old one. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 11:03, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Round #2 awaits you!

See Club Penguin Fan Universe:Speeddasher VS Zone for more info.

Bugzy^Talk

00:46, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: I need to ask a question

Most likely he would use a Ninja Sword or a gun. I can imagine him using two Ninja Swords in a battle. Also, what weapon would your character use? --Speeddasher

Re: Gotta apologize

I'm not mad. You're pic looks excellent. Nice job. --Speeddasher

Here!

Here he is. He isn't GREAT, like you draw, but he isn't bad. He took me a while. Tell me whatcha think, k?--Austin8310-HIYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAA! 21:47, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Request

Can you make the cover art of SkyBound] (parody of EarthBound)? Either:

1. Make the text SkyBound and put a picture of the sky in the o (letter) or,
2. Make the text SkyBound with a picture of four penguins below it.

I will give you a picture to give you the idea for four penguins in option 2 in a few minutes....--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 22:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures for request

Pictures of the main characters of earthbound.--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 23:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

You should Archive your talk.

ARCHIVE YOUR TALK!

This is your 85th section. You should archive your talk page when it gets too long. Here, I made you a link: User_talk:Z_K/Archive 1. Yours PWNingly, KingH10 ;^) She said please! I have to help her now! My Blogs! ^{Play KingH10's Favourite Online Game!} 06:49, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Reasons why I'm here?

Of course, same with you, I do requests too. I'm working on a load of new stuff for Metalmanager, just finishing one off now.

(To be honest with you, you're way better than me and Speeddasher. I nearly fell out of my chair to find out I'd inspired that battle image)

And a small reminder of your excellence in Art I give you...

File:Bestart.png

The Award for Artistic Excellence and Fantastic Drawing Abilities!

I made this in a rush, but I think it's cool.

Anyway, you are the best here, so remember that when you're making a picture of Zone pwning Speeddasher in space.

Yours truly and awesomely,

--Eternal Magma Complaints ahoy! 11:36, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I need your help

My family is going to the beach next weekend and I need you to make a symbol because we're gonna get a ccustom t-shirt for me. I need you to use photoshop to put Stewie Griffin's head onto Cartman's body. I hate to ask you but I had to because my parents told me to. --Yours Cooly, Flywish ^{I Pwn! So does Rey Mysterio!} 03:00, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Round #3 awaits you!

See Club Penguin Fan Universe:Speeddasher VS Zone for more details.

Bugzy^Talk

04:09, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Mech Rider pic

Can you make a new pic for my character Mech Rider.You can get a general idea of what he looks like from his current pic.Only do it if you want to.If you do,thanks.If not,its ok.bye --Mech Rider Memo Me Impune Lacessit. 17:54, June 23, 2010 (UTC)<s>

Nevermind,Austin volunteered because you probably busy with other requests.

Image Contest!

Go here now!

Enter your picture into the contest before Someone Else Does! (Anyone can Enter!)

--Swiss Ninja - I place the Royal Seal on this page - 01:15, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Image Request from Flystar

Hey Z K. I was wondering if you could make an image of the Star Beast for me. Just picture a huge monster (non-penguin like) that has an orange aura around it. If you need more details, just contact me at my talk page. Hope you can make the image!--Flystar Hope you have a great day! 01:26, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

A note for the green hill zone boss of sonic 1 (genesis)

If your lucky enough to jump and hit a box in a tree before the check point you'll be invincible for a huge part of the battle, you can try multiple times for it. Tails6000 14:04, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wow...

Are you busy or something like that? Because its been like...almost a month and I didn't get my request.......--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 23:46, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

*facepalm*

I wish I did not fall for that.--12yz12ab Talk to me Edits Contribs 02:03, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Pic request...

Hey Zone! It's Will k here (this is my CPFW-friendly account)! I was wondering...could you make your own version of this picture and re-upload it (when you're done under File:Happy Too image.png? I really want a cool profile picture. Also, make the background white and make him folding his arms. Please think about it...

--Jacob W. Too Talk to ^me _{or me!} 11:58, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

WHAT?!?!?

UMM, THE TRANSPARENT BACKGROUNDS MADE THEM BETTER AND I ACCIDENTALY POSTED THAT POST HEAPS OF TIMES BECAUSE MY INTERNET WAS LOADING SLOWLY AND I WANTED IT TO LOAD FASTER SO I CLICKED THE SAVE BUTTON HEAPS OF TIMES!!!!! BESIDES, I CLEANED IT UP LATER!!!! --Jacob W. Too Talk to ^me _{or me!} 23:36, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry.......I th

ought the images would be better with the transparent backgrounds. But apparently not. But please, could you please make one? I am having an image contest, so if you do the pic, post it here. Bye!

--Jacob W. Too Talk to ^me _{or me!} 03:44, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty please?????

Please? I love your pictures. Pretty please make one and submit it. --Jacob W. Too Talk to ^me _{or me!} 11:22, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Dude, stop pestering Zone. He's not gonna do it cause you already have a picture. Plus, he already has a TRILLION requests. It's not like he's gonna make another picture just because one user really wants one. If you want a picture, ask me. I'll think about it. --Austin8310-YA-HIHIHIHIHIHI!!!-Lit. 11:24, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Extra thing.

Upload the christmas picture to

that.

Yours PWNingly, KingH10 ;^) Talk to me, I hardly get any messages! My Blogs! ^{Play KingH10's Favourite Online Game!} 04:03, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Kirby games

You don't seem to count KSSU as a Kirby game, so in your case, no.

BTW, to Swiss Ninja, it won't really matter. Either way he thinks I'm a Kirby freak. Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (OBEY YOUR PROPELLER LORD! MWAHAHA) View this template 11:51, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I know. But it's not very effective because of the history and the recent changes.

Nice try, though. Yours Truly, Explorer 767 (OBEY YOUR PROPELLER LORD! MWAHAHA) View this template 19:51, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Can you do me a favor?

Go to Talk:Rollback Gun and kick Explorer's butt. He deliberatly deleted a MQA3, just because it was "OOC." It wasn't OOC. He just didn't like it. Can you do me a HUGE favor and give him a butt-kicking? Just do it really quick. You don't HAVE to, but I'd really like it. Our admins really...fail. We need to get rid of the BOSS and just have 1 or 2 admins.

Remiiiiiiiiiix

Hey, on the shoutbox, around about the same time as Tails requested one, I also requested one. Can you make a remix of Marble Zone with a more dark and "lost in a dungeon" kind of feel to it? Thanks, --Pyro ^{Spy sappin' mah sentry! sentry down!} 11:33, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Old Spice Man Address Anonymous

Anonymous spammed the Old Spice Man (one of the greatest commercials in years) with the following message:

"Use old spice. Our dads use it, our grand fathers used it, because it works. Stop asking or begging for hugs. You smell bad!"

In all his manly manliness, the Old Spice Man responded with:

Dearest Anonymous,

I gladly accept your nomination and hope my reign as your 147th king will be long and full of win! Thank you for your continued support!

Love,

The Old Spice Man

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There must be ten thousand Anonymous jokes in here. I could see the Book as "Rules of the Internet" and later inferred "Delicious Cake" as referencing "the cake is a lie" (even though I still don't get it), but all in all, I'd just like the joke explained. Right now, I can only laugh at the cosmetic appeal.

According to commentators, this man knows his 4-Chan and is NOT a New<censored>, nor a Summer<censored>. Personally, I just find him hilarious without a backstory.

Perhaps you could clear some things up, and explain this to me? (It's an epic win even now, but if I got all of the jokes, it would be even better.)

Then, there's THIS.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{OPULENCE: I has it.[2]} † 22:04, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: If you haven't already seen the Old Spice Man, please honor yourself and view it. Your life will never be the same. :)

---

RE: Anonymous

Hold on a moment, aren't you not supposed to talk about that? (Oh drat, I just talked about it.) Meh, no matter, you're Zone: you can talk about "/B/" if you want to. (I did it again!)

Anyway, if this is your opinion, and since you go there, I'm betting it all that you're correct.

From what I can tell, Internet Anonymous, being a massive group of unnamed people, can be good and bad at the same time, domestic terrorists and patriotic heroes at once, simply because they're all unnamed.

The folks that attack Scientology aren't the same that send daily death threats (to the point of calling the FBI) to the middle school creator of the No Cussing Club, for example, or the Noob who said he was going to bomb a sports complex on inset day here.

You (if you're a member of Anonymous) are obviously seperate from the Walruses or the wannabes. It took me YEARS to learn that not everyone in Anonymous sends death threats to innocents.

The Walruses?

This comes to my question.

The infamous #<math>i_am_the_walrus</math>, that group of fail, claims to be a spinoff/subsidiary of Internet Anonymous. They think they're so bad, running around and attacking young children with death threats, prank calls at midnight, and fifty dollar's worth of pizza. They even stole "We are Leigon" and "We Do Not Forgive" from the site. Of course, if you try and stand up to them, they back away and/or resort to pitiful insults. I tried that last Christmas; the walruses haven't bothered me since.

My question is simple: Do the Walruses really have anything to do with Anonymous, or are they one of Anonymous' "new<censored>" wannabes? Furthermore, is there anyway that you or someone you know could raid them in true Anonymous fashion (or that of an aflliate)? If trolling is your game, I'm pretty sure the Walruses will BBAAAAAAWWW- as they say -their eyes out after they get attacked by those they claim to be: the ultimate Lulz would be to make the schoolyard bully cry. They can dish it... -but can they take it?

I know that you're probably busy with things that are more important, and if the current raiders of Anonymous are as much of an epic fail as you say, it may never happen.

Still, if you and some friends ever get the chance to raid the Walruses... I'd love to see what happens!

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{This signature is now DIAMONDS.} † ^{1 - 2} † I like editings the wiki. – – 18:55, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. I apologize for bothering you. --† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{This signature is now DIAMONDS.} † ^{1 - 2} † I like editings the wiki. – – 20:02, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Hello!

Thanks, I was just following in your footsteps, and I was like "What would Z K do?", heh. I'm gonna try and get a shot at Mariothemovie and get him to calm down a bit ;) -- ¤ (User page!) (The Cookie Master, bow!) 18:29, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Weeaboo Stories?

Hey Zone, you wouldn't happen to have some good weeaboo stories would ya? By that, I mean extreme anime fandom etc. Even worse than your anime fandom hehe.

I ask because a gaming bro of mine has fallen under weeaboo syndrome, and I want to pull him out of that cycle before he loses redemption.

Bugzy^Talk

18:44, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Your Manical Swearing Filth

YES. I SAW IT. I can't believe you had the audacity to bash me like that. I can't believe you swore at me like that so much. I can't believe that you said that to me. I promoted you in the spur of the moment, and it was very foolish of me.

I've got somewhat of a related story to tell, its actually current events on the Fanon wiki.

>Made this post on the CPFW

>Tremendous amount of support

>TurtleShroom wanders in, goes <censored> because he's afraid his power-hungry days will be vanquished

>Actually makes a speech claiming the "death of CPFW"

>I make a rebuttal

>BOSS deleted, new rules in place

>New rules are more catered to wikia policies i.e. consensus and the like

>TurtleShroom goes <censored> again

>Deletes the COC

>Promotes me to bureaucrat (why <censored> he did that I will never know)

>Calms down, then goes <censored> once again

>Removes links on the front page to the new policies, generally does little vandalisms here and there

>Does nothing at all to improve the wiki, just cries that the wiki will die because of this "unholy policy", takes frequent stabs at me when I'm not around to see it, I quote from TS; "my goal is to fearmonger the Masses with my opinions"

Oh and if TS happens to see this, I have but one question to ask you;

What IS your <censored> malfunction? You do <censored> for CPFW other than hopping around with <censored> and trying to manipulate everyone else into believing your <censored>. Its no wonder you're a <censored> bible-thumper, but you're more catered to the Doomsayer job more than anything. I bet you'll be one of the morons yelling "THE END IS NEAR!" in December 2012.
You complained that the policy was just plagiarized and should be unique to CPFW. Alright, fair call. Because its a fanfiction wiki, I complied and made the Sue Policy, and I also plan to make a Godmodding policy in the near future. However, I am failing to understand what goes on in your <censored> little mind because;
You deleted the COC. I assumed you were doing this to make way for the policies, but now you're removing everything that references them? What in the <censored>?
You promoted me to Bureaucrat without my consent, and now you're whining that you shouldn't of promoted me?

Do they grow them big and <censored> stupid in Texas, or did a generation of incest take its toll on you?

I have done PLENTY for the CPFW, ZK. TWELVE THOUSAND EDITS is certainly not doing anything for that site! Furthermore, I thought you were above making those stupid incest jokes! I guess I was WRONG about that! I don't even BELIEVE in the 2012 scenario, I just know doom when I see it!

If you haven't noticed, I've been less and less active here, and I really have trouble typing in this site's address because of what you've done. Like me, you are charismatic and extremely good at manipulating the Masses. They supported you for the same reason they supported my long speeches: we're very good at persuasion.

Now, I still can't believe how you just bashed and swore at me behind my back, yet complain about what I have said behind yours.

I am fully convinced now that you want to see me defeated. You want to see me demoted and thrown out like they did in the CPW. Yes, I have gone crazy in the past over this, but for good reason: this is a coup! I was right all along, and now, I'm going to do all I can to reverse this madness.

You'll regret the day you swore at me like that, ZK. Share this with your Un-CP goons if you wish, slander my name on there if that is your desire, but remember that I once respected you highly. I can't do that anymore.

-TurtleShroom

RE: Message

I never said I wanted a war. I'll wage one if I must, but I am defending myself, not attacking. I just don't want a coup to succeed again. This exact same thing- these very policies -were shoved through into the CPW, and coincidently, I was thrown out of power there. The same thing will happen here.

I never said that you sought power or glory in this coup, and I don't think that you really want to destroy this site. However, there are other reasons to stage a coup.

• You either want to change a regime for the better because the current rule is oppressive (USSR, Cuba, 1776 USA)...
• ...-or, you want to get rid of someone in power and then leave the new government alone (Latin American interventions, Nigeria, 1950s Iran).

See, whether this is your intention or not, your "reforms" are going to destroy my reputation, position, and ideologies. Exactly like it was done in the CPW, people start to remember me as "the crazy guy" instead of a wiki's lifetime helper. During the revolutions of the CPW, everything I did for the site was pushed aside thanks to my insane actions in the end days of my reign.

No one on the CPW ever remembers me for my thousands of edits, or for my contributions there. They only know me as the crazy guy who halted Progress for a few months.

Now, here I stand with twelve thousand edits. Soon, people won't care that I did so much for the site. They'll be too pre-occupied with how crazy I am when things go wrong.

Another thing that wiki coups do to me: they crush my Will to Edit. When I was smashed in the CPW, I stopped going there because I was too sad to edit. I was demoted soon after and found sanctuary here.

As for calling me a terrorist, I can't deny that I'm using fear to sway the Masses. However, if the fear is true, is it terrorism? Or, is it a twisted way of trying to help?

The reason I butt heads in reform, and the reason I usually escalate choas either intentionally or by accident, is because I'm the only one who refuses to change.

You know this and I know this: I am the ONLY ONE who hasn't been changed to your side. Yet, if everyone else changes sides, who would listen to me? There are two possible reasons for this: I am too stuck in my ways to see the Light, and everyone is right except me, OR, I'm the only one that hasn't been tricked.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{This signature is now DIAMONDS.} † ^{1 - 2} † I like editings the wiki. – – 19:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Auswitch

ZK, I just wanted to personally thank you for deleting all of those articles on behalf of the Final Solution.

You saved us a lot of time and effort, and I justwant to personally thank you. I appreciate it.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{This signature is now DIAMONDS.} † ^{1 - 2} † I like editings the wiki. – – 20:02, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to help delete, but I can't. }:(--Error 404: Signature not found. Possible reasons why this may have happened are: Not found. 20:04, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Policy

Yes, I do remove them, and not because of you, but because I hate them but don't know how to communicate my dislike and problems with them.

I myself can't obey a policy that's so politically correct that Impeachment of Mariothemovie, Fluffy, and TheRealBen are deemed illegal. I can't tolerate a policy set that is so soft on vandals, and I can't stand a rule that says rules may be ignored. Plus, the use of the Magma Puffle in the "snowball clause" is cheesy.

It's shameful to say, but I refuse to follow the rules as they currently are. Like Triskelle and that wretch (AG) before me, I'll stand in passive civil disobediance.

Now that the old rules don't exist, I will govern by my own standards, and you to yours, and to each his own, until I am told exactly what I can and can not do on a ruleset I agree too. You don't seem to grasp that I need limitations. Things that come instantly to normal people must be taught to me in RL. There are no set-in-stone laws on what I can't do other than the "duhs" like vandalism. It always says "use common sense", which is extremely vague and varies wildly by upbringing, culture, homeland, religion, and the person.

If I could put that in a nice image, then check this portrait out for my point. Let's say these characters represent the common sense of you and me.

On the left is your common sense: developed, complex, varying, not a black-white thing, and even eloquent in usage. Yours is pretty and proper, portrayed and uniform, and you know exactly what to do with it. As a rounded item, it can conform to new ideas. It has its flaws every now and then, but overall, you have a good common sense. It fits in with any community and blends well with others. Accepted wholly, your common sense is great for this site.

On the right is mine: well-defined in some places with slight traces of expertise, but short and broken in parts. Some pieces are missing entirely, and there's a sense of loss in the whole thing. It's black and white, good or bad, never shades of grey or gradient, and flat, in the sense that it can't conform to new ideas. It's also unnatural every now and then, and doesn't fit in certain places. It definately stands out in a bad way, but if in the right context, it can be accepted and even deemed lovable.

Notice how they dramatically differ in appearence and detail. One has shading and one doesn't. One's a nice uniform color (black goes with anything), the other is mismatched (yellow and green don't match). One's pretty, one's not as pretty, etc.

Common sense varies wildly from person to person, and some people don't have it at all. I have been told that I don't have it, for example.

• Further- and this one hits me the most -I can't stand when you say this site isn't governed. IT IS. It is supposedly governed by the Masses by Consensus. The proper term would be "not a cabal", because everyone holds power, instead of an elite few.

• Also, I deeply hate various policies like "not an image repository". We're uploading OUR DESKTOPS. By your policy, that would be personal image hosting. We are currently pretty leniant on image hosting, and I like it that way. Just look at Rocket Slug's user page! We permit that! Why, look at mine, and that smiling mushroom!

• Then there's "not a soapbox". This isn't Wikipedia, ZK. You have to look closely, but I slip my political beliefs far too subtly in most everything. Antidisestablishmentarianism is a perfect example of a secret political depiction. Look around at any of my work and you'll see some bias. I try and I succeed at remaining fairly neutral in most of my work, but I always have a mild bias in my work. It's like a tilted picture frame. You barely notice it until you focus on it. Plus, biased stories sometimes make for great literature. Sexism, racism, "specism", etc., all controversial and frowned upon, are great in stories. Characters that promote hate are the bad guys and lose, but they still promote hate.

• Don't forget the "snowball clause". I hate that one, too. Who defines that? It's so vague that anyone can call on it. I don't think this coup has a snowball's chance that it'll work, but you do. Ben Hun could call me adopting his article as so wrong that it's like a snowball in an oven. I could say that a new article "doesn't stand a snowball in an oven's chance" of succeeding.

The whole thing is vague, politically correct, and occasionally, irrevelant.

Neutrality, for example, is hard to do in fanfiction! Look at any television series, and you'll see that "shipping" minions fight over who's better.

Fairly OddParents has two equally feasible groups for the protagonist. Each one has a chance in the canonical edition (even though one is beginning to surge ahead), and each side has reasons why they should be paired. If the two groups confront, they battle.

Those who favor one side glorify theirs and shun the other, and vice-versa. Those who favor one pairing will write the protagonist and the girl they want him to have, while the other gets rejected. The opposite is true for the other camp. One group glorifies theirs and shuns the other, and the other shuns theirs and glorifies the other. Bias is natural, and neither group is neutral.

I just can't do the policy, and I'm trying not to look at it. For me not to look at it, I have to remove it from my sight.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{This signature is now DIAMONDS.} † ^{1 - 2} † I like editings the wiki. – – 21:11, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Agent Makes A Return!

Well, I took Agent Meltie's deletion to be okay. In fact, I took it to myself to make her fictionally deleted, and then come back, blasted from a glitchy time machine, to be fourteen again! And she has became a good character, and currently dating Metal, even though he's an Emoguin, she just likes his hair, his smarts, and how cute he looks when he's ready to battle.

SO IN YO LITTLE VACATION FACE! I mean, I took the deletion to be quite an honor. Thanks for deleting it. Without one swift click of your mouse, I wouldn't have come up with an EPIC idea!

User:Rocket Slug I'm a girl-on da weekee-who's scay-ered!

So you're not cheesed off?

Phew, that was a close one. Without your deletion, my idea would have just been erased from my brain, which the whole brain-deletion process takes a montage for me. Like, giving up Invader Zim. Hasn't happened yet, but it half-happened once when I saw a clip from the episode Dark Harvest. One word: gruesome.

So, back on topic. Third time, thanks, and I hope it becomes better!

Besides, my dad's not into the whole fad (He checks my contributions! Cam you believe him?!?) so he told me to change Agent up.

It's a pie, don't move. IT'S OVER 9,000!

RE: RE: Policies

Fair enough, I won't remove links on MediaWiki and Main Page, and other areas like that. However, it would be nice if you didn't link them.

Now, as for submitting edits, there's the problem. Even with your description, I can't just do that, because, well...

• ONE. You are far more powerful than me. Like people fear to challenge me (even if they hate what I'm doing), I fear to challenge you.

• TWO. You pretty much control this site now. I can't really focusing on governing when you're doing that very thing for me. I really lost the ability to maintain and govern the database simply because you took that power away from me. If I'm not the leader, I'm either very passive or very argumentative. (This is why I always like to lead.)

• THREE. There's too much to contest. I hate a lot of it but understand it, and some of them just don't make since, like the Snowball and Gaming the System.

• FOUR. I fear you.

I guess I'll go into detail with what I can right now.

• Romantic Sue shouldn't be illegal or even mentioned in the Sue Codes. Stalker characters (banned as Yandere) already have good standing (Tammy, Dara, Canren, and Kaylee are all stalkers on romantic reasons, and are aggressive to other potential mates, though Canren is a stalker plain and simple). Obbsessive stalker characters make for great literature. You need to clarify Yandere to characters that actually and descriptively harm others in an unholy fashion (look at Fairly OddParents: slicing someone with a chainsaw is different that chasing someone with one), or something like that.

• Don't feed the trolls needs to be merged with RBIS. Some trolls can be made into characters without feeding, but others need to be ignored. RBIS has done wonders in the past. Inhale Spheres and the Electrotails, for example, are RBIS works.

• "Gaming the system" is a dumb phrase and still makes no sense to me. The page is complex and has some things that just don't work. I think it should be completely re-written to read something more like this:

  Site doctrine is intended to be a framework of what to do and not do. It should not be interpreted literally to exploit loopholes, nor shall votes be rigged with sockpuppets, nor shall any vote be removed except when (link to common sense) neccesary (like AG or Tigernose votes, both illegal here).

  • Gaming the system should solely be fraud, cherrypicking, blatent lying, and loopholes. Many things, like wiki-lawyer or fillibustering, is not rigging a vote, but a natural method of consensusing amongst the weirder users!
    • In short, replace GTS with Letter and Spirit of Law. Excluding fraud and sockpuppetry, I employ most of GTS in every debate I do, including this one. See how I am ranting and retaliating with excessively odd rambles? I CAN'T REALLY HELP THAT, and I won't if I could. I like my method of debate, thank you.
      • GTS cripples my ability to debate! The entire thing seems to be against me and possibly, on a lesser scale, Explorer.
  • These sub-bullets would cripple my ability to respond on a Consensus. Please reword, remove, or not outlaw them for my sake.
    • DON'T OUTLAW FILLIBUSTERING. It is a neccessary item for the minority to make sure they're heard! What do you think I do? Yes, I fillibuster and rant on and on and on and on with my walls of text, and people start to agree with me! Outlaw that and you've suppressed my only method of debate. I can't debate without fillibustering: it's a natural part of how I work.
    • DON'T BAN WIKI-LAWYER. It is an excellent and popular (Explorer) method of defeating opponents and proving points. This may not be a court of law, but the site doctrines can be treated like laws. Please allow the lawyers to do what they do, because some of us can only debate in such a formal and lofty manner. Take me, for example: have you ever noticed how I respond in debate, with that lofty, fancy-word-laced tone that makes walruses spit on me? I NEED THAT. Explorer may still need that, too.
      • Laws should be treated like laws if that can be helped. Lawyers are sometimes the best way to do it, and those who know law should have the right to use their skills on this site. Just because most people don't know what a straw man is, doesn't mean you can outlaw it.
      • Legalisms are both fun and excellent debating tools. They should be legal.

• Three-revert is insane and needs to be eradicated. Rollbacks need the right to revert as many times as they can to ensure stability and the proper method of the article, but in good faith and in common sense.

• Not everyone comes to edit in good faith, ZK. Tigernose, for example, just comes to rub his snobbish statements in the commentary. He has no productivity for the site, just sass. AG was similar to this. Forum Restrictions, for example, wasn't in good faith.

• I can't stress this enough: YOU ARE TOO SOFT ON THE G-PG MANDATE. You just reccomend it to stay there and refuse to harshly state that punishment will occur.

• YOU ARE TOO SOFT ON VANDALS. That's one of the few items that shouldn't be a strict thing. Blocking is case by case. Some petty vandals deserve life sentance (e.g. placing the names of reproduction organs on an article), but some page blankers don't. It is entirely case by case and it should be the responsibility of the administrators to decde a block time they deem appropriate, first come, first serve. If it's beyond outrageous, another administrator can simply lower it.

• The Death code needs to be merged with this, because it does a much better job of describing everything than your scattered items. Death must be instaneous and non-descriptive. Some types of death are banned, some allowed, and others in special circumstances.

• Some things can not be consensued. It's as simple as that.

• The Snowball Clause must be removed. People, including me, will abuse it and claim its use all the time, even WITH common sense. It's too vague.

• Good faith should not be extended to previously established evils. A man with "Walrus" in their name or "9/11" is always up to no good. We know this from experience. AG is raw evil, and of course, sockpuppets of vandals need to be wiped out like the nuisance they are. Sometimes, those who claim to have reformed lie to us and turn evil after they lull us into a sense pof trust.
  • They'll also abuse those who are gullible (*cough* me *cough*).

• This site IS governed. The proper term for that is "not a cabal". Rule by all, not the elite few.

• There's nothing wrong with being a small-time image hosting spot. It's convienent and very useful for small jobs. In fact, we could use common sense to decide when enough's enough. For example, Rocket Slug has a ton of images hosted for her use, and even I have at least one. We also have our desktops posted on ZW's blog.

• Some discussions should be deleted. There are some things no man should no, some meggases no man should read. Using common sense is key here, and administrators should have the right to delete things that shouldn't be here. Imagine if THIS remained on the site? Or, what about any of the old Court House?

• What about stability and enforcing order? Some things, like rebels, revolutionaries, AgentGeniuses, and undesirable debates need to be removed, using common sense. STABILITY IS PARAMOUNT.

• Also, coups must be made illegal.

• Deletion is also a case-by-case and should be handled as such, like blocking, by the administrators whenever it arises.
  • Speedy deletion should mean instant deletion, like it does now.

• There are off-site elements of the CPFW. The Forums and the IRC are offsite. That can't be illegal because it already happened. Plus, look at all of the Wikipedia links!

• You shouldn't urge people to implement more Wikipedia policies. We must rely on ourselves and write our own policies to suit OUR NEEDS. That leads me back to why I hate these policies: too vague, too politically correct, and not catered enough to our site's uniqueness.

• Redirects, protection, ownership, and Bots do not need their own pages.

• THERE IS NOT AN OOC POLICY HERE. You NEED one.

• You must remove the "don't delete messages" and "snowball clause", as well as majorly rewriting, shortening, and loosening "gaming the system" to simply ban fraud, stacking, and lies. Wiki-lawyer, fillibuster, and rants are my core methods of debate.

Also, see my previous messages for anything I missed. I apologize for the messiness, but it's hard to communicate this.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{This signature is now DIAMONDS.} † ^{1 - 2} † I like editings the wiki. – –

22:14, August 14, 2010 (UTC) 
 

RE:

Hey Zone,

I didn't know that Evolution isn't allowed, from what I learned from TurtleShroom when I first became a sysop, I was to delete anything about Evolution and ban the maker. He did that once, a long time ago, and I figured that that was what the code said to do. It did. I still haven't gotten used to your new-fangled policy system... I'm used to one page that tells me all the rules, not all of these sub-catagories and since your code isn't finished yet, I still abide by the old COC.

--Dan Beronews Click teh linkz, CLICK THEM! CLICK THEM NAUGH! ^{I didn't steal TS's signature! I borrowed it! (And maybe changed it a little...)} Hail teh Shroom!

20:14, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

RE:

Ok great! I will be very happy when the new policies are finished! I believe that the reason that Data world was allowed was because it was to good of an article to pass up, T-Shroom did do that sometimes with articles, when they were good articles, even if they were something like that, he let 'em slide. He did ban users for mentioning it sometimes, though.

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Dan Beronews Click teh linkz, CLICK THEM! CLICK THEM NAUGH! ^{I didn't steal TS's signature! I borrowed it! (And maybe changed it a little...)} Hail teh Shroom! 20:30, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Please, just delete those. Mariothemovie

RE: RE: Policies

Not all of this improvement, especially the ban on fillibuster and wiki-lawyer. That's just a clandestine method of silencing me. I don't think you're doing that on purpose, but it's working.

Okay, here we go.

• I think we have characters with psychotic grins and sharp weapons that would do a lot for their romantic soulmate. Dara blasts those who try to get between her and Corai, for example. If this is Yandere, I may finally be getting it.

• I disagree with your statement equally. RBIS is used for special occasions. Common sense governs when and when not to do it, and it's pretty well laid out not to depict an RBIS subject as a total idiot who fails at life. Inhales Spheres, for example, is certainly not an idiot. He's a magical orb that patrols the halls of the Walrus Warehouse. He was based off of a real vandal/troll, but how is giving him a neutral depiction feeding him? If the article is in good taste, RBIS isn't feeding, it's a means of expansion and creativity.

• I completely agree with that statement.
  • However, it should be greatly reduced to ban fraud, loopholes, lying, and deceit, not harmless practices like legal terms and rants. Again, by banning those two items, you ban me and the only way I know how to debate.
  • I will again battle your insistance on wiki-lawyer and fillibuster. The Court House was a case where users could "debate" issues with others and with policies. Think of it like a consensus but without order. People would debate and then flame and then choas swept through. I fear that this Consensus will collapse into that.
    • It may be pointless to you, but it's all I know how to do. It's not pointless to me. You can't ban the only way I know how to debate! I'm a rambler in the sense that I never shut up. My parents, my authorities, my friends, you, and anyone who listens to me will know this and respond to that with the truth: I ramble and always make long speeches! Banning fillibustering bans me.
    • Also, you have your share of "yes sir, yes sir, three bags full"! Don't deny it: most people were swayed into obediance by your long and complicated ideas about Consensus, which I still can't completely grasp! If you ban fillibustering, you're hurting yourself. After all, wasn't your previous replies all LONG?
      • It's unfair to ban a practical and successful means of debate because it may cause the opponent to lose. If you ban fillibustering (rants) and wiki-lawyer (fancy terms and talk), you've shackled me and have in a sense silenced my opposition! Face it, you have everyone except me in your pocket. Since I'm not being swayed, why not just legislate me out? All I know how to do is fillibuster. That's it. That is all I can do. Look at this rant and prove otherwise: I am fillibustering. Banning fillibustering bans me.

• Usually, an edit war breaks between a new user and an administrator. The new user is trying to insert something illegal, but the administrator is trying to change it back. The original COC provided the takeover clause (administrators have the right to rewrite all indecency from articles at whim) to instantly neutralize edit wars.
  • Edit wars must be eliminated, and they shouldn't be allowed to grow into anything other than someone putting their foot down and saying "NO". They are not a time for discussion, they are to be halted on sight.

• I agree with your long story short. I disagree that swearing should not get a long block. With the exception of the language barrier (D-word is clean and GD-phrase is dirty in Europe, but both are vile in the States), swearing needs to be crushed.

• Okay.

• I refuse to uphold a consensus in most things. Voting is more efficient and does not become flame wars. All debates become flame wars here, without fail.

• Thank you.

• That's as ridiculous as thinking that prison "rehabilitation" actually works. My grandfather worked in the corrections department, and my great-grandfather was a prison's head chef. Both of them and the History Channel say that of every three prisoners rehabiliated, two return. My cousin-in-law- who knows and talks to several delinquients at school -backs this up, and my great-grandmother (the chef's wife), having lived near the prison back before commuting existed, affirms. If the harshness of jail can't cure RL villainy, how can a simple block change an anonymous doofus on a computer? Sometimes, the only good ban is eternal.
  • I extended good faith to Slow Poke after he pretended to reform. He then backstabbed me, hijacked Sharkbate's account with a brute force technique, and started wreaking havoc. I refused to trust TheRealBen (Ben 10002) when he reformed, but everyone else extended good faith to him. He backstabbed the wiki and wreaked havoc. After it was cleaned up, people finally believed me, in that sometimes, bad is bad.
    • ZK, your case was the exception, not the rule. Your YouTube message was sincere and sorrowful, honest and motivated, and you were telling the truth. When you were freed, you were true to your word. You had reformed. However, two others on your former path won't do that.
      • This being said, my church lessons have been flooded with reconciliation (making amends and respect), mercy (withholding punishment on one who deserves a harsh one), compassion (sympathy and kindness to others), and grace (an advanced version of mercy extended to those who are evil).
        • Online, reconciliation is apologizing or trying to compromise with you. I'm doing that right now, or at least I'm trying.
          • The church elders and Sunday School say that reconciliation is one of the highest ways to witness to others. If you reconcile, you are showing you truly care about them and what they say. As one put it, a person who doesn't have the urge to reconcile or at least feel bad about an argument should fear for their immortal soul. Reconciliation is a high sign of conscience. You've done reconciliation with me, as well, ZK. That was one of the reasons I felt so moved by your letter and decied to take a leap of faith and forgive you. You're a good man. I'm glad I did.
        • Mercy, here, is lowering a block or even pardoning those who should be punished in an attempt to show kindness and respect. As the elders said, as a Christian, I should show mercy as Jesus did, forgiving even those who perform insubordination or swearing.
        • Compassion is what I did for you after that message. You wanted to help, and I symptahized with your writings. I gave grace.
        • Grace is the hardest: that would be me dropping all anger towards, say, Ben 10002 after the backstabbing, gullibility, and butter. Grace would be me ending my fued with the Un-CP by ignoring their villainy. Grace is commanded by God.
          • After all, if Jesus gave his life for RL people who cursed at him and beat him, should I not give grace to a mere vandal who I've never met? That's what I was taught.

• (Hey! Why not put THAT in your policies? Show grace, mercy, compassion, and reconciliation to even the unlovables amongst us.)

• As for gullibility... what reputation? Seriously, I have no idea on that.

• Thank you for the cabal thing.

• We can't do that. Many of us are illiterate in that field. Most people don't use image hosting. I just now learned how to use Image Chicken and Image Shack. Don't make me sign up for something that deletes your images in the future!
  • Most of us LIKE being an image repository. I know RS does! I certainly do! Don't put that there unless you get Consensus from the rest of us.

• All debates eventually degrade to flame war, and there are some things that should NOT be discussed. Disney bashing, for example, should not exist here. I think that Disney is the best of the potential CP takeovers, and while money-hungry, it could be far worse. Along with the occasional passerby, I'm the sole corporate defender on here, and anything saying Disney leaves because it causes flame wars. Look in the deletion list, and you'll see most of the reasons for deletion.
  • There are some things that should NOT be discussed.

• You couped me and the current order. We've gone over that.

• Understood. However, a vote on deletion is simply a slow, choking bureaucracy. No one ever used Article Deletion, Merging, or Adoption by way of their bureaucracies. All three of those are instaneous. If it says "delete", delete. If a merge is called, do it. If you expand it to a point, it's yours. It saves time and works better.

• A definition of "serious wiki business" will be needed. Administrators, and not just me, have created policy and dictates behind closed doors.

• I am strongly against political correctness. However, I support censorship and enforcement of decency.
  • Tales of Phantasm holds things that violate the site doctrines as they stood. For example, the medical inaccuaries made it sound darker or more vague, and it wasn't suitable for children. I corrected it, and while a few parts still sounded pretty bad, at least Raziel didn't "have the authority of life or death" on Zone. Besides, how can a growing blob "choose"? That's annoyingly wrong in a biological sense. Medically, parisitic Raziel would have failed to burst out of Zone due to a reason in the blob's mass, or due to a nutrient imbalence, etc. etc. -I took a course on parisites in the ninth grade. I know.
    • Part of my job as an administrator is to be a Censor. Sysops hold a dual job of enforcement and censorship, and I am the one who does the whole censorship thing, since most others are fine with the usual.

• No, they do not. It's pointless and creates laws that mirror my CPFWC or the Constitution: laws that no one uses or gets and are there for a select few.
  • No one knows how to write a bot here except ZW and Seahorse. Why govern them? They know EXACTLY what they are doing and don't need legislation.
  • Redirects need no governance: sending you to another page can't do harm, so why legislate it? We can all type #REDIRECT [[Insert non-formatted text here]], and we can't do much of anything with that. Anythign that goes wrong could be dealt via vanal codes.

• I will continue to campaign against Don't Delete Disscussion. It undermines the all-important censorship that we use to keep this site in order and in the clean, pristine state we like it in. Flame wars, controversial petitions, undesirable debates- all deleted on basis of common sense -must not be seen by the public. After all, it'll only incite them to bring it up AGAIN. Plus, what if my parents suddenly decide to read my talk page, or read a Forum debate, only to see something that, despite not swearing or breaking decency, ticks them off?
  • For example: if someone tried to consensus whether or not to legalize homosexuality references here, I'd swoop in and delete it. Why? Homosexuality is unholy, it's not G or PG, and it's not rigt. Parents, mine included, wouldn't like me dealing with gay characters. My parents would judge heavilly if the read such a petition. Under DDD, it would stay even when it's defeated! That just can't be!

• Debating starts flame wars (see: Forums), not just the Court House. Consensus is a matter of debate, and just you wait. You'll see, you'll see the flames. Watch as someone does something stupid... -and BLOOSH! Then, we'd delete it, and it'd all be over... unless DDD is in effect.

• You don't care if Wiki-lawyer and fillibuster are my core methods of debate? Therefore, you don't care if I am suddenly rendered incapable of debate because it is all I am capable of using?
  • You can't ban those two. It prevents me from debating at all. Say what you wish, but I am incapable of writing a short debate. In debate, in consensus, in voting, in opposition, I ramble. I only write short sentances in small-time suggestions or questions, like Raziel's image talk page (the Fawful comparison).

• As for everyone else mocking us, that's not our problem. The Staff hate me anyway, and the feeling is somewhat mutual. I really don't care about their elitist ideas in most casesm, but I keep that to myself because they can destroy me with one mouse click. When you say people mock us, the CPFW, you really mean that they mock me, TurtleShroom.
  • Add this to "CPFW is not": We are not other wikis. Their rules don't apply. We rule ourselves and should not seek outside influence for our governance. Just because it works on Avatar Wiki or had success on CPW does NOT mean it should be copied here. We are not other wikis.

There. In order, I replied. As the sole opposition, I will continue this debate until I lose.

School begins for me tomorrow, so expect a long wait for activity and replies.

Have a glorious day. I hope that we can work something out.

--† TurtleShroom™! Jesus Loves You and Died for You!! †  :)  :) ^{This signature is now DIAMONDS.} † ^{1 - 2} † I like editings the wiki.– –

02:01, August 16, 2010 (UTC)